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To: Deo volente; caww
Interesting. Maybe you wlll find this interesting, too:

The early Christians received the Bible from The Holy Spirit, who inspired it, not from the Roman Catholic Church.

But don't listen to me. Listen to what the "OFFICIAL TEACHINGS of the Roman Catholic Church" says in regard to both the Old Testament and New Testament books of the Bible:

"These books the church holds to be sacred and canonical not because she subsequently approved them by her authority after they had been composed by unaided human skill, nor simply because they contain revelation without error, but because, being written under the inspiration of the holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and were as such committed to the church". - First Vatican Council. (emphasis added by me for clarity).

2,363 posted on 07/26/2010 5:26:50 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness; dsc; narses; Mad Dawg
"These books the church holds to be sacred and canonical not because she subsequently approved them by her authority after they had been composed by unaided human skill, nor simply because they contain revelation without error, but because, being written under the inspiration of the holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and were as such committed to the church". - First Vatican Council. (emphasis added by me for clarity)."

You should have emphasized the rest of that phrase as well, "after they had been composed by unaided human skill,". Then the sentence makes sense. The Church would never have approved, "by her authority", books which were not written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and call them sacred. That's the grammatical sense of the sentence, my friend.

The books were authored by God, of course, and were committed by Him to His Church. The bishops of that Church selected the correct, inspired books from the many different "gospels" and "epistles" which were floating around during the three centuries after Christ. You should see how many apocryphal books were extant. It was a large number.


2,368 posted on 07/26/2010 5:47:10 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
(emphasis added by me for clarity).

Bold type clarifies exactly what? Why not explain with your own words your agreement / disagreement.

Not simply that you agree or disagree, but which part and show why it is right or wrong.

2,371 posted on 07/26/2010 5:58:48 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Well the catholics do differ among themselves in how they see what Rome states they should believe. But then even among non-catholics there are differences as well. But where the line is drawn is we can and do have fellowship and central beliefs of the Gospel of Christ across the denominations, and therefore by His Spirit are united to one another as His body and His Bride... as you know.

My understanding is some in the catholic church still believe that salvation is only thru the catholic church...others in Rome seem to acknowledge Christians are indeed of varying faiths outside the catholic church itself.. So I would guess it would depend on who they might choose to listen to.

2,391 posted on 07/26/2010 6:32:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: small voice in the wilderness

WOW.

That’s impressive and shocking.

Some RC bloke got it right for a change! Good on em.


2,444 posted on 07/26/2010 8:37:47 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

This must not be part of the doctrines they are proud of. Evidently, things CHANGE. But we already knew that..


2,449 posted on 07/26/2010 8:42:00 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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