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The more that is known, the more I wonder just WHAT Christ’s role is in HIS OWN DEATH FOR OUR SINS< AND RESURRECTION FOR OUR SALVATION, actually means to a Catholic. It is almost as if He is relegated to a secondary role.


2,359 posted on 07/26/2010 4:54:57 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
The more that is known, the more I wonder just WHAT Christ’s role is in HIS OWN DEATH FOR OUR SINS< AND RESURRECTION FOR OUR SALVATION, actually means to a Catholic. It is almost as if He is relegated to a secondary role.

You should look at the prayers of the Mass, the central act of the Church's worship, which is offered day in and day out in churches throughout the world. This worship is so important that Catholics are bound under the pain of mortal sin to attend Mass every Sunday and holy day, unless they have a good excuse.
Mary is mentioned a few times, of course, but the main thrust of the liturgy is the commemoration of the Sacrifice of Jesus Christ. The Eucharistic Prayer, which is the heart of the Mass, is one tremendous prayer to God the Father, through Christ, in the unity of the Holy Spirit.

The words that Our Lord spoke at the Last Supper are said once again by the priest, and the one Holy Sacrifice is re-presented, in an unbloody manner, as Jesus commanded his disciples to do. There is a wonderful focus at every Mass on Christ's "death for our sins and His resurrection for our salvation", as you put it..
2,365 posted on 07/26/2010 5:32:22 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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Secondary role?

Nonsense, That would be an advancement for Him in their seeming scheme of things.

It’s more like He’s Mary’s valet.


2,437 posted on 07/26/2010 8:31:04 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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The more that is known, the more I wonder just WHAT Christ’s role is in HIS OWN DEATH FOR OUR SINS< AND RESURRECTION FOR OUR SALVATION, actually means to a Catholic. It is almost as if He is relegated to a secondary role.

I was told very recently by a life-long, well-catechized Roman Catholic that Jesus "opened the door to heaven for us". But, it is up to us to work our way into deserving heaven. That is, we must receive "grace" through the sacraments and through our good works, that we must abstain from sinning, and if we commit any "mortal" sin, we must go to confession and "do penance". Only then can we even have a "hope" of going to heaven.

My heart aches that so many have been blinded to the truth of the gospel - that Christ Jesus gave himself as a ransom for our sins, he died in our place, for us, and took upon himslef the punishment we deserved. He did far more than just open the gates of heaven. He is the ONLY way in.

2,523 posted on 07/26/2010 9:44:16 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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