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To: small voice in the wilderness

“Nonsensical fabrications. They come from YOUR OWN CHURCH’S DOCTRINES.”

Please, try to concentrate. Listen now: Catholics are not required to believe every proposition that is advanced. We can be in total disagreement with JPII on capital punishment, and remain Cathoics in good standing. No offense is committed.

The fact that you read—and misunderstand—a passage from a papal encyclical does not mean that it is an article of faith, that every Catholic believes or is required to believe it, or that it is in accord with Catholic dogma as defined in the Catechism of the Catholic Church or other sources.

It is, of course, patently obvious that the misinterpretation you force on the words has nothing at all to do with Catholicism.

“And if it is correct, then we have another clue as to Mary’s importance to the Catholic believer. ‘As she leads us to her son, Jesus in paradise.?’

What is wrong with that? It doesn’t say she has to lead us or we don’t find her Son. It doesn’t say that our salvation depends on her. She leads us only as an act of love, and who would spurn an expression of love from the Mother of God?

Look, I’m bowing out of this. As I have seen so many times here, those whose attacks on the Church are the most malign, the most obdurate, the wickedest, are incapable of or unwilling to use their God-given reason, and are utterly bereft of any apparent desire to try.


2,296 posted on 07/26/2010 3:05:08 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Another underwhelming

POT = KETTLE
MOMENT

BROUGHT TO US BY THE EXPERTS IN SUCH THINGS . . . the blathering Vatican reps.


2,307 posted on 07/26/2010 3:11:56 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: dsc; small voice in the wilderness
Please, try to concentrate. Listen now: Catholics are not required to believe every proposition that is advanced. We can be in total disagreement with JPII on capital punishment, and remain Cathoics in good standing. No offense is committed.

Please, try to concentrate. Listen now Catholics are required to believe every proposition that is advanced by a Pope under the definition of "Infallibility".

I understand there have been very few. Can you list them to assist in our understanding of Catholic teaching?


2,346 posted on 07/26/2010 4:21:21 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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