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To: MarkBsnr; metmom; Natural Law
Romanist and RC were intended to be perjoratives. There is a difference. The term Protestant was coined by the Protestants, as well. Self identification. If the Church referred to itself as Romanist, that is one thing, but the fact is that the term was invented by and came into fashion with British and American anti Catholics.

"...The term Protestant was coined by the Protestants, as well."

History according to MarkBsnr? I can't find it. Can you? Proof please.

Origin of the word “Protestant”
May 31, 2008 by Kevin S.

Back in Luther’s time, Germany was ruled by princes, both Lutheran and Roman Catholic. If Charles V, the Roman Emperor, had his way, he would have forced all of Germany, including all of Europe, to remain Roman Catholic. Six of the princes who ruled Germany had already converted to Luther’s view, including its 14 Free Imperial cities. They considered themselves Evangelicals or Lutherans (or followers of Luther).

Charles V gave to order (Edict of Worms) to enforce all the German lands to remain Roman Catholic But thank God those six Lutheran princes courageously stood together, united and strong, and refused to accept this rule. They protested, made their case to demand that Lutheran lands should be free to remain Lutheran, and where the prince was Roman Catholic, that state may remain Catholic.

Then, on April 29, 1529, the six princes declared to Charles V:

“We protest before God and before men that we and our people will not agree to anything in this decree that is contrary to God, to His Holy Word, to our right conscience, and to the salvation of our souls.”

Charles V could do nothing because the princes stood up in unity for religious freedom. From then on, they were known as the Protestors or the Protestants.

ORIGIN OF THE WORD PROTESTANT

Also, your claim that "Romanist and RC" were intended to be perjoratives is also without merit. While it might be meant as a pejorative by some it is meant as shorthand by others.

Frankly, your use of the term "Protestant" is frequently meant as a pejorative while, to others, it is merely descriptive.

1,789 posted on 07/24/2010 8:24:05 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"...The term Protestant was coined by the Protestants, as well."

History according to MarkBsnr? I can't find it. Can you? Proof please.

Hmm. Good point. I am unable to find anything more conclusive than your source.

Charles V could do nothing because the princes stood up in unity for religious freedom. From then on, they were known as the Protestors or the Protestants.

The implication seems to be a mutual agreement but I was unable to find who first hung the tag on this group.

Also, your claim that "Romanist and RC" were intended to be perjoratives is also without merit.

Really? A short journey through Google may change your mind. The first page brings such exciting entries as these:

Essays [third series] on the errors of Romanism, having their ... - Google Books Result Richard Whately - 1837 - Oxford movement - 384 pages ... by touching briefly on some of the particular points in which faults, essentially the same with those of the Romanists, have beset, and will ever beset, ... books.google.com/books?id=EWkrAAAAYAAJ...

[PDF] Typology, Diachrony, and Universals of Semantic Change in Word ... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View by F Rainer - 2003 - Cited by 6 - Related articles A Romanist's Look at the Polysemy of Agent Nouns. Franz Rainer ..... The origin and history of the instrumental extension of Romance deverbal agent ... mmm.lingue.unibo.it/mmm-proc/.../021-034-Rainer-MMM4.pdf - SimilarRead the ebook The history of Romanism : from the earliest ... THe principal origin-si authorities for the history of the council of Trent .... That the Puseyite unites with the Romanist is occupying this popish ground, ... www.ebooksread.com/...romanism.../page-56-the-history-of-romanism--from-the-earliest-corruptions-of-christianity-to-the-p-ala.shtml - CachedEIPS -

The Origin of False Doctrines Jan 22, 1998 ... Too few of us here in Northern Ireland see Romanism in its true light, ... dogmas accepted by the Roman Catholic Church are of pagan origin. ... www.ianpaisley.org/rome.asp?rome_origin_doctrines.htm - Cached - Similar

Essays (third series) on the errors of Romanism, having their ... Mar 17, 2010 ... Ebook and Texts Archive > Canadian Libraries > Essays (third series) on the errors of Romanism, having their origin in human nature ... www.archive.org/details/a613881200whatuoft - Cached

Is Mary "Queen of Heaven" and "Mother of God"? The origin of this idolatry had its root in ancient mythology. ... It is claimed by Romanists that the mother and child sustain the same relation in heaven ... www.abcog.org/mary4.htm - Cached - Similar

Cyclopaedia of Biblical, theological, and ecclesiastical literature - Google Books Result 1891 - Religion ... the monastic institute, to be of apostolical origin ? ... It is one of the charges brought hy Romanists against Protestantism that it has violently ... books.google.com/books?id=b6Dzw6ULQqMC...

JIMMY AKIN.ORG: The Origin Of Lent Apr 9, 2007 ... Romanism is not the faith once delivered to the saints. ... thread on the origins of Lent comes the sound of the flatulence you emmitted. ... www.jimmyakin.org/2007/04/the_origin_of_l.html - Cached - Similar

Chapter 2: The Perpetuity of the Church. Presbyterians are so-called because of their form of government and owe their origin and practices to John Calvin. Calvin, like Luther, was a Romanist, ... www.pbministries.org/.../Origin%20and%20Perpetuity/origin_02.htm - Cached - Similar

Now let us go to:

Wikipedia: Romanism

Top Home > Library > Miscellaneous > Wikipedia This article does not cite any references or sources.

Romanism was a word used as a derogatory term for Roman Catholicism in the past when anti-Catholicism was more common in the United States and the United Kingdom. The term was frequently used in late-nineteenth and early-twentieth century Republican invectives against the Democrats, as part of the slogan "Rum, rebellion, and Romanism" (referencing the Democratic party's constituency of Southerners and anti-Temperance, frequently Catholic, working-class immigrants). The term and slogan gained particular prominence in the 1928 presidential campaign, in which the Democratic candidate was the outspokenly anti-Prohibition Catholic Governor of New York Al Smith. The term is still used, though rarely, by anti-Catholics.

Ahem, rarely that is, excepting on FR, it seems.

Frankly, your use of the term "Protestant" is frequently meant as a pejorative while, to others, it is merely descriptive.

Do you have examples where I used Protestant as perjorative?

1,805 posted on 07/24/2010 10:26:09 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
As I've noted . . .

I've REPEATEDLY asked for a term for Roman Catholics that I could use in good conscience that would be acceptable to them.

THEY HAVE ALWAYS FAILED TO COMPLY.

Therefore, their wailing is disingenuous, to the max.

1,872 posted on 07/24/2010 4:24:41 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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