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To: don-o
All of the above are my own thoughts, as I have been taught and come to believe. I ask correction where I may have clumsily represented the ancient faith.

We are not Jews. We do not seek a materialistic savior today. Jesus Christ was born, accomplished the task of saving His flock which God had given Him from the foundation of the world, and He departed to heaven where He now sits on the right hand of the Father.

"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 2:9-16

So Scripture tells us that believers have been given "the mind of Christ."

Is that mind of Christ in some mason jar covered in formaldehyde?

No, it is with us spiritually. Mercifully, the minds of the redeemed have been "renewed" by the Holy Spirit in order to "know the things of God" because men were created as conceptual beings. We're supposed to learn through words and concepts and ideas. And if God has given us ears to hear and the Holy Spirit to lead us in all understanding, those words, concepts and ideas will penetrate our hearts and turn our minds from sin to God.

That's what Scripture teaches us.

"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." -- Matthew 12:37

1,266 posted on 07/20/2010 10:34:47 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Is that mind of Christ in some mason jar covered in formaldehyde?

That question raises one about the cerebral cortex inside the skull of the Man, Jesus Christ. When He ascended to the Father the two "men" in white told the lookers on that the "same Jesus" would return in like manner.

In Luke 24:39 Jesus invites the Apostles to "handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." Then he ate food with them.

His flesh was of a different kind than before, since he could pass through walls; but He confirms in the verse that He is not a spirit.

He has retained, in a glorified form, the flesh that He took from the Theotokos. And the implication I draw from that is that matter matters. God does not despise his creation. In fact, He shows us that it is being redeemed from its bondage to corruption.

I am not disputing the scriptures cited as to the natural and spiritual mind. I am saying that a complete rejection of the physical is not Christianity. And I am not saying that Dr E does reject it. I'm not sure about that.

Her post just prompted my thought about the Incarnation and what are the implications.

1,276 posted on 07/21/2010 3:23:11 AM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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