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To: mlizzy
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He quickened together in Him, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES." (Col. 2:13).

"But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love wherewith He loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved:) and hath raised us up together and MADE US SIT TOGETHER IN HEAVENLY PLACES in Christ Jesus". (Eph. 2:4-6).

"That we should be to the praise of His glory who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also ALSO AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED YE WERE SEALED with that Holy Spirit of promise." (Eph. 1:12,13).

"By the which will we ARE sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL...But this man, after he had offered ONE SACRIFICE FOR SINS FOREVER, sat down on the right hand of God...for by ONE OFFERING he hath perfected FOREVER them that are sanctified". (Heb. 10:10, 12,14).

Absolutely, I am saved. I am seated in heavenly places in Christ. I am saved, sanctified, justified, and sealed unto the day of redemption.

1,216 posted on 07/20/2010 7:14:21 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He quickened together in Him, HAVING FORGIVEN YOU ALL TRESPASSES." (Col. 2:13).

Colossians 2: 12 You were buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And even when you were dead (in) transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, he brought you to life along with him, having forgiven us all our transgressions; 14 Ephesians 2: 1 1 2 You were dead in your transgressions and sins 3 2 in which you once lived following the age of this world, 4 following the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the disobedient. 3 All of us once lived among them in the desires of our flesh, following the wishes of the flesh and the impulses, and we were by nature children of wrath, like the rest. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of the great love he had for us, 5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, brought us to life with Christ 5 (by grace you have been saved), 6 raised us up with him, and seated us with him in the heavens in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not from you; it is the gift of God; 9 it is not from works, so no one may boast. 10 For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them. 11 6 Therefore, remember that at one time you, Gentiles in the flesh, called the uncircumcision by those called the circumcision, which is done in the flesh by human hands, 12 were at that time without Christ, alienated from the community of Israel 7 and strangers to the covenants of promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have become near by the blood of Christ. 14 8 For he is our peace, he who made both one and broke down the dividing wall of enmity, through his flesh, 15 abolishing the law with its commandments and legal claims, that he might create in himself one new person 9 in place of the two, thus establishing peace, 16 and might reconcile both with God, in one body, through the cross, putting that enmity to death by it. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near, 18 for through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the holy ones and members of the household of God, 20 built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the capstone. 10 21 Through him the whole structure is held together and grows into a temple sacred in the Lord; 22 in him you also are being built together into a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. called and here Paul is addressing the Gentiles. Ephesians 1:

13 In him you also, who have heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and have believed in him, were sealed 7 with the promised holy Spirit, 14 which is the first installment 8 of our inheritance toward redemption as God's possession, to the praise of his glory. 15 9 Therefore, I, too, hearing of your faith in the Lord Jesus and of your love 10 for all the holy ones, 16 do not cease giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation resulting in knowledge of him. 18 May the eyes of (your) hearts be enlightened, that you may know what is the hope that belongs to his call, what are the riches of glory in his inheritance among the holy ones, 19 and what is the surpassing greatness of his power for us who believe, in accord with the exercise of his great might, 20 which he worked in Christ, raising him from the dead and seating him at his right hand in the heavens, 21 far above every principality, authority, power, and dominion, and every name that is named not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And he put all things beneath his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, 23 which is his body, 11 the fullness of the one who fills all things in every way.

The role of the Church and the promise of hope to believers.

Ephesians 1: 11 In him we were also chosen, destined in accord with the purpose of the one who accomplishes all things according to the intention of his will, 12 so that we might exist for the praise of his glory, we who first hoped 6 in Christ.

hint, hint, who were the ones who first hoped in Christ?

Them that are sanctified? And who are they? Do you self identify as one of the sancfied?

Hebrews 10: 14 If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins 27 but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who rejects the law of Moses 15 is put to death without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 Do you not think that a much worse punishment is due the one who has contempt for the Son of God, considers unclean the covenant-blood by which he was consecrated, and insults the spirit of grace? 30 We know the one who said: "Vengeance is mine; I will repay," and again: "The Lord will judge his people." 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 32 Remember the days past when, after you had been enlightened, 16 you endured a great contest of suffering. 33 At times you were publicly exposed to abuse and affliction; at other times you associated yourselves with those so treated. 34 You even joined in the sufferings of those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, knowing that you had a better and lasting possession. 35 Therefore, do not throw away your confidence; it will have great recompense. 36 You need endurance to do the will of God and receive what he has promised. 37 "For, after just a brief moment, 17 he who is to come shall come; he shall not delay. 38 But my just one shall live by faith, and if he draws back I take no pleasure in him." 39 We are not among those who draw back and perish, but among those who have faith and will possess life.

Will possess. Will endure. Live by faith. Endurance. No, Paul does not preach surety of salvation, but the endurance of the faithful. Hmm, that is 100 points of out of 100 in similarity to the Catechism of the Church...

1,218 posted on 07/20/2010 7:30:29 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Absolutely, I am saved. I am seated in heavenly places in Christ. I am saved, sanctified, justified, and sealed unto the day of redemption.
Cocky and dangerous; and why do you quote so much Scripture? ... do you not believe others know Him as well? (I follow along via my missal every day at Mass -- reading 1, responsorial, gospel -- and I can't tell you how distracting it would be if the passages were filled with intermittent caps -- even NON-CATHOLICS would NOT care for THAT).

But I'm sticking with Fr. Corapi; I won't know I'm saved until I'm looking at Jesus. Even Mother Teresa of Calcutta said the Lord would place her where she belongs when she dies, not for an instant claiming that would be heaven. Do you feel they are/were "misguided" -- that you are more enlightened?
1,289 posted on 07/21/2010 6:26:46 AM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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