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To: small voice in the wilderness; Mad Dawg
OPUS, you cannot BE partially pregnant. You cannot BE partially saved.

At the end. This is the perseverance of the saints. Paul continuously preaches on conduct of the people and the hope of salvation. Jesus preached belief, baptism and conduct. Paul preached hope, not surety.

1 Thessalonians 5: 8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love and the helmet that is hope for salvation. 9 For God did not destine us for wrath, but to gain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep we may live together with him. 2

Hope. God wants us to be saved. We may live together. But the hope is there, not the surety.

Romans 5: 1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace 2 with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access (by faith) to this grace in which we stand, and we boast in hope of the glory of God. 3 Not only that, but we even boast of our afflictions, knowing that affliction produces endurance, 4 and endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, 5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out into our hearts through the holy Spirit that has been given to us.

Paul preached hope. Not surety.

Romans 13: 1 1 Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear to good conduct, but to evil. Do you wish to have no fear of authority? Then do what is good and you will receive approval from it, 4 for it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience. 6 This is why you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7 Pay to all their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, toll to whom toll is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due. 8 2 Owe nothing to anyone, except to love one another; for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery; you shall not kill; you shall not steal; you shall not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this saying, (namely) "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." 10 Love does no evil to the neighbor; hence, love is the fulfillment of the law. 11 3 And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed; 12 the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then throw off the works of darkness (and) put on the armor of light; 13 let us conduct ourselves properly as in the day, 4 not in orgies and drunkenness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and jealousy. 14 But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the desires of the flesh.

And why must one conduct oneself in this way if one is already saved?

Romans 14: 8 For if we live, we live for the Lord, 3 and if we die, we die for the Lord; so then, whether we live or die, we are the Lord's. 9 For this is why Christ died and came to life, that he might be Lord of both the dead and the living. 10 Why then do you judge your brother? Or you, why do you look down on your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God; 11 for it is written: "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bend before me, and every tongue shall give praise to God." 12 So (then) each of us shall give an account of himself (to God).

There are many who do not believe that they will be Judged. Paul says otherwise. We will all be Judged and He will accord to us what He will. And what will He accord to us?

I can quote Matthew 25 if required...

1,211 posted on 07/20/2010 6:52:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Ah, MarkBsnr. Yes believers will be judged. For rewards, not salvation. You see, salvation comes first, then works. "For we are his workmanship, created IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Unbelievers will be judged, as Paul states: "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ ACCORDING TO MY GOSPEL." (Rom. 2:16). It may be incumbent on those who THINK they are following the gospel, to know just what the " MY GOSPEL" Paul is referring to..

1,219 posted on 07/20/2010 7:32:55 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: MarkBsnr

The indwelling of God the Holy Spirit is pretty good surety.


1,259 posted on 07/20/2010 9:45:01 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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