Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
How "rabid clique" can be seen as other than personal attack, escapes me.
Maybe, as an English As a Second Language teacher for 15 years, I can be of some help.
"clique" = GROUP . . . AS IN A COLLECTION OF PEOPLE--TECHNICALLY AT LEAST 2 OR MORE.
PERSONAL = individual . . . as in ONE person . . .
Maybe that can be helpful. Learning to distinguish between one block vs two or more blocks is usually a very early EUREKA moment. However, discovery at any age is a treasure.
Actually, Psychologists--particularly those of us who are also sociologists--love to pontificate about groups. That's one reason FR is so much fun. Even the groups have lots of subgroups and most of the subgroups have subgroups. And then there's all the IN-GROUP VS OUT-GROUP dynamics. There's no end of things to ramble on about! LOL.
“But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is NOT AFTER MAN. For I neither RECEIVED IT OF MAN, neither was I TAUGHT IT , but by THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST.”
So what was the Gospel of Christ that Paul received by DIRECT REVELATION FROM THE RISEN CHRIST?”
That’s not in conflict that Paul recieved direct revelation. Of course it is. Galatians 1 is clear that he received it directly.
Catholics believe that only through the merits of Our Lord, Jesus Christ are we saved by Grace. WE MERIT NOTHING ON OUR OWN.
Secondly, Catholics prove Scripture BY Scripture.
In Galatians, if you READ THE ENTIRE BOOK, which is why we do not simply exerpt passages, Paul’s opponents in Galatia wanted to bring the Gentile Christians back into the Old Testament law. These are the works of the law that Paul is fighting against, and they have no place in our justification. Paul is saying in essence that Gentile Christians do not have to be circumcised and live like Jewish Christians in order to be saved.
But Paul speaks about Christians fulfilling the law by following the command to “love your neighbor as yourself” (Gal. 5:14). He then explains that we must show the “fruit of the Spirit” (Gal 5:16–26) and bear one another’s burdens (Gal. 6:1ff) as a way of fulfilling the “law of Christ” (Gal. 6:2). All Paul’s teaching comes down to this: Our own works can never justify us, but works that grow out of faith in Christ are part of our justification. That’s why Paul says in Philippians 2:12 you must “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” And that squares with James’s teaching that works that grow from faith justify.
You forgot the second part of Ephesians:
“For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God; not of works lest any man should boast.
For we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for GOOD WORKS, which God prepared beforehand, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM.”
lolol. They’ve never made a statement that can’t be rescinded, contradicted, ignored or denied.
It’s how they defend the faith, dontcha know?
WELL PUT.
You can be absolutely certain that the knowledge of your eternal salvation has been provided within the scripture WITHOUT the burden of any one's oral Tradition...
And THAT is scripture alone, regardless of how you slice it...
[INDEED]
I’m marking this post Mad Dawg, so I can answer later. Off to pick up son at airport. Take care!
LOL! Thanks.
I’m good looking too!
Oh, Jeez. Time to go pray my Litany.
WHAT?????
WITHOUT
ALL THE MAGICSTERICAL AND !!!!TRADITIONAL!!!!!
VATICAN INSTITUTION QUALIFIERS TO THE WORD OF GOD????
Ahhhhhh welll . . . who ever
expected
TRUTH IN PONTIFICATING from the Vatican and affiliates.
They’ve been blinded. There is no other answer.
The seeming willful blindness is the most troubling.
Now look.
Did you have to go and give the brigade C.O. carte blanche overtly and publically
with THOSE words!
Sigh.
Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!
WRONG TO THE MAX
YET AGAIN.
LOL.
I suspect most of them showed up around the time of the creation of Aesop’s Fables...
==
OR A TIME-WARPED VERSION OF
ALICE’S RABBIT HOLE.
What the heck are you talking about?
Scripture and Tradition go hand in hand.
Sola Scriptura is just a heresy from hell.
OH?
RIGHT,
AS DECLARED BY THE MAGICSTERICAL, POLITICAL POWER-MONGERING TYRANNICAL BUREAUCRATIC PAPIST BIGGOTS.
Thank you.
He says he’s accepted Christ but I’m concern about his reliance on all of the other non-Biblical items and procedures.
God Bless you anyway.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
MAKING UP DOGMA, !!!!TRADITIONS!!!!, DOCTRINE,
HISTORY, ‘Bible’ interpretations, daffynitions
& heretical theology out of
THIN AIR
IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE
EXCLUSIVIST, MONOPOLISTIC RC THINGS STRICTLY MANAGED AND CONTROLLED BY THE MAGICSTERICAL FOR THE GOOD OF THE THEOLOGICAL ELITES and the confusion of the sheeple and serfs.
Impressive. Sooooooooooooooo impressive.
And YES that is what the book of Galatians is about. Trying to be justified by the law. Or Christ and the law. Paul states that his gospel is not after man, he didn't learn it after man. Meaning that Peter or the 11 didn't give him this gospel. It's DIFFERENT. It's the Gospel of the Grace of God that saves in this present dispensation. You are following the Gospel of the Kingdom for your salvation. It's clear with your ten commandments and beatitudes.
You may know that you merit nothing on your own, but your not knowing if you're saved until the end of your life says something else entirely, And so does your teaching of purgatory. The FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST PLUS YOUR WORKS doesn't mean anything. Because if your works are in any way involved, then the work of Christ by necessity, isn't a FINISHED effort.
INDEED.
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