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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Iscool

No, we don’t wonder about it...I suspect the next logical step would be to leave out the cracker...What do you need that for??? Mary does it all...


ALL and then some.

I wonder when the magicsterical has suggested Mary tell God Almighty to take a hike?


6,061 posted on 08/03/2010 2:35:35 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: D-fendr

6,062 posted on 08/03/2010 2:37:26 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Natural Law
"It is a shame that the rules don't permit calling a spade a spade."

Hello spade.

6,063 posted on 08/03/2010 2:38:48 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

INDEED!
THANKS!

6,064 posted on 08/03/2010 2:43:30 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom

Mary gave birth to Jesus, not God [ALMIGHTY].

She is not the Mother of God [ALMIGHTY]. That’s attributing to her things that are not true.

If you claim that she’s not the Mother of God [ALMIGHTY], per se, then [THE FARCICAL EDIFICE] need[S] to stop calling her that.

The [ROMAN] Catholic church is replete with things that it says and then claims it doesn’t really mean. That’s disingenuous and dishonest.

If they’d simply say what they really mean, much of the debate would settle down. Instead we have Catholics twisting and spinning in the wind like wind sock trying to explain how what the [ROMAN] Catholic church says isn’t what it really means.


INDEED.


6,065 posted on 08/03/2010 2:45:34 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Mexican bishops denounce Arizona immigration law [CWN] The bishops of Mexico have released a press statement denouncing the controversial Arizona immigration law. The statement was signed by Bishop Víctor René Rodríguez Gómez of Texcoco, ...

Yep, Catholics favor liberalism.
6,066 posted on 08/03/2010 2:48:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: OLD REGGIE; Dr. Eckleburg
"Dr E. there is a danger in relying on the word of a loudmouthed amateur for truthful information."

Do you really believe that a few minutes poking around on the internet will give you sufficient information and understanding to engage in any serious discussion of Catholicism? Anathema has a long, and misunderstood history dating far before the birth of Christ. The 1917 Code of Canon Law, which abolished all ecclesiastical penalties not mentioned in the Code itself (canon 6), made "anathema" synonymous with "excommunication" (canon 2257). The ritual described in the Catholic Encyclopedia (which is NOT a publication of the Catholic Church) is not included in the post-Vatican II revision of the Pontifical.

(Do you realize you are beginning to look as thoroughly discredited as Dr. E.?)

6,067 posted on 08/03/2010 2:50:14 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: the_conscience
The difference is that Romanism is built upon the notion that all wisdom is locked up in the institutional Church.

The real difference is in how we define "Church". Catholics believe Christ instituted the Church with himself at the head and the Apostles in charge, and that as we see in scripture, the Apostles determine who succeed them on throughout history. Thus the Church is the Body of Christ, ""the pillar and foundation of truth," guided by the Holy Spirit and "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"

In the Nicene creed (I believe) this is the "One holy, catholic and apostolic Church."

I don't expect you to believe the same, but understand that our belief is in Christ at the Head and Holy Spirit guiding His Church as the foundation of truth. You may see the Catholic Church as a "human edifice" but we do not.

Another difference is in authority. We believe the Church has authority, in this discussion, teaching authority.

Aside from beliefs, this is necessary to have one Church - a common teaching from a common authority.

In Protestantism in general today, this is not the case. The Scripture is often said to be the authority, however, Scripture does not teach itself, interpret itself, or if it does, it seems not to teach and interpret the same things in the same way to everyone. And each takes it on their own authority as to which is correct.

So, in summary, I believe the real "human edifice" is the one who claims the authority of the Church for him or herself.

thanks for your reply..

6,068 posted on 08/03/2010 2:51:10 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom

“And the Catholic church today looks nothing like the church as found in the book of Acts.”

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That is because it is the church of antichrist, founded by Antiochus Eppiphanes; the Harlot that sitteth on the beast....
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6,069 posted on 08/03/2010 2:51:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"I will assume your native language is not English and you are not aware of the standard convention to identify a partial quote."

While you are busy grading papers you ought to reflect upon this thought; It is better to say things stupidly than to say stupid things!

6,070 posted on 08/03/2010 2:54:21 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: editor-surveyor
"That is because it is the church of antichrist, founded by Antiochus Eppiphanes; the Harlot that sitteth on the beast...."

Are you claiming you are an expert on harlots too?

6,071 posted on 08/03/2010 2:55:42 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Church doctrine/decrees are NOT pearls.

PEARLS are THE WORD OF GOD as GOD SAYS IN HIS WORD!

THE Word that is NOT enough for the RCC, the LIVING WORD, JESUS, that is NOT enough for the RCC.

Don’t make that error, again. There is enough heresy on this thread.


6,072 posted on 08/03/2010 2:55:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: D-fendr
you are not aware of the standard convention to identify a partial quote.

Please. Talk about your Posting Police, now we have the Ellipsis Squad.

Sheesh, the partial quote conveys a meaning completely at odds with the original quote.

That's ok, I understand the Jesuit philosophy Make no statement that cannot be denied, modified, or reinterpreted as required.

6,073 posted on 08/03/2010 2:58:20 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
"I understand the Jesuit philosophy"

LOL - I doubt that you have ever actually seen a real live Jesuit.

6,074 posted on 08/03/2010 3:00:54 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Mad Dawg
Seriously, tell me what you see.

I pretty well did at the end of #5979

I see the angels on either side reminding us of the cherubim on the ark of the covenant.

Yes, hosts of heaven bowing down before that horrid depiction. How vile is that?

I see Mary kind of leaning on the moon which I thought she was standing on in Revelation, but who's counting.

I believe she is sitting akimbo...

So, yeah I can see how it's an outrage to non-Catholics.

It should be an outrage to ANYONE who worships YHWH,

[...] To me it's an outrage to good taste -- it's the remnants of my being Episcopalian you understand.

That'll do it, every time.

But it's perfectly decent theology.

I could not disagree more vehemently.

6,075 posted on 08/03/2010 3:02:00 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: presently no screen name
"THE Word that is NOT enough for the RCC..."

Don’t make that error, again. There is enough heresy on this thread.

6,076 posted on 08/03/2010 3:02:56 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: D-fendr
We see the Old Testament through the eyes of the New Testament.

YOu guys don't even see the New Testament thru the eyes of the New Testament...

Romans 11 is about the restoration of Israel...Matt, Mark and Luke are about Israel...Hebrew and James are about Israel as well as some other books...

6,077 posted on 08/03/2010 3:04:30 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg
Do you really believe that a few minutes poking around on the internet will give you sufficient information and understanding to engage in any serious discussion of Catholicism? Anathema has a long, and misunderstood history dating far before the birth of Christ. The 1917 Code of Canon Law, which abolished all ecclesiastical penalties not mentioned in the Code itself (canon 6), made "anathema" synonymous with "excommunication" (canon 2257). The ritual described in the Catholic Encyclopedia (which is NOT a publication of the Catholic Church) is not included in the post-Vatican II revision of the Pontifical.

THERE IS NO TEACHING OF THE RCC THAT IT CANNOT BE DENIED, MODIFIED, OR REINTERPRETED AS REQUIRED.
6,078 posted on 08/03/2010 3:05:08 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: presently no screen name
PEARLS are THE WORD OF GOD as GOD SAYS IN HIS WORD!

And you can prove that? Please do so; and if you would be so kind, standard fonts with capital letters per standatd usage. Thank you.

6,079 posted on 08/03/2010 3:06:04 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: eastsider
All kidding aside, poached fresh fish for breakfast is delicious!

Fried brook trout for breakfast is nothing short of a delicacy...

6,080 posted on 08/03/2010 3:06:39 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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