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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Natural Law
Actually, the religion is influenced by culture, just as Judaism was before it. But before you high five the rest of your hallelujah posse ask yourself why God chose the Roman Empire as the incubator for His Church.

Agreed about Judaism as well.

Many descendants of Esau resided in the area around Rome at the time. So I wouldn't be so quick to blame it on God.

3,461 posted on 07/29/2010 3:14:16 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Cronos
No religion more influenced with paganism than Calvinism where you have a demonic Calvingod who creates beings who hate him in the womb, then forces some to “love” him and be grateful to have been “saved” from his wrath. . But you already know this.

I'm supposed to defend Calvin? lol. Dream on.

3,462 posted on 07/29/2010 3:16:28 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Deo volente; Quix
"It would be nice if you could actually join the discussion on an adult level."

They actually make sense if you spent the last 30 years following the Grateful Dead from concert to concert.

3,463 posted on 07/29/2010 3:17:40 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: trisham
Well and beautifully said.

Would you quit cheerleading? :-)

3,464 posted on 07/29/2010 3:17:45 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Natural Law
Then we must agree to disagree.

Agree to disagree??? You're not disagreeing with anyone on this forum...You are disagreeing with the God of Creation who inspired Peter to understand and write these words...

1Pe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
1Pe 5:3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.

3,465 posted on 07/29/2010 3:18:55 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
"You're not disagreeing with anyone on this forum...You are disagreeing with the God of Creation who inspired Peter to understand and write these words..."

Like Calvin before you, you are displaying the obscene hubris of claiming to speak for God. I suppose when one gets tired of usurping the RM the Holy Spirit is an obvious target.

3,466 posted on 07/29/2010 3:23:13 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: metmom; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..
Here we have it folks,
in
[TEXT ON OUR SCREENS]
[ROMAN] Catholics
believe that
God's Word isn't enough.

Funny, the apostles
[THOUGHT VERY]
differently.....
2 Timothy 3:16 7 17/b
All Scripture
is God-breathed
and is useful
for teaching,
rebuking,
correcting
and
training
in righteousness,
so that
the man of God
may be
thoroughly equipped
for every good work.

That takes
chutzpah.

INDEED!

along with

BRAZEN ARROGANCE,
VAIN GLORY,
HAUGHTINESS,
.
REBELLION AGAINST GOD,
IDOLATRY OF THE FLESH, SELF AND ONE'S OWN PUNY MANIPULATIONS;
POLITICAL POWER-MONGERING;
.
DEVILISH DOCTRINES OF DEMONS;
!!!!CONTROL!!!! PHREAQUE-ISM;
.
WORSHIP OF HUMAN !!!!!TRADITIONS!!!!!;
WORSHIP OF PERSONAGES;
.
WORSHIP OF POWER;
WORSHIP OF INSTITUTIONS;
.
WORSHIP OF ONE'S IN-GROUP AND THE OSTRACISM AND PUNISHMENT OF OUT-GROUP MEMBERS;
WORSHIP OF RITUALS;
.
WORSHIP OF THE CREATED VS THE CREATOR;
WORSHIP OF HUMAN IDEAS, DOCTRINES OF MAN;
.
WORSHIP OF DOCTRINES OF DEMONS;
WORSHIP OF WHITE HANKYS;
.
WORSHIP OF POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE;
WORSHIP OF RELIGION & RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES VS OF ALMIGHTY GOD AND HIM ALONE;
.
TRUSTING IN RELIGIOUS ACTIONS FOR SALVATION VS IN FAITH-IN-GOD-ALONE!
TRUSTING IN THE INSTITUTION MORE THAN OR INSTEAD OF TRUSTING IN GOD ALONE!
.
TRUSTING IN FANTASIES AND DOCTRINES OF DEMONS ABOUT THE CARICATURED PSEUDO-MARY PERSONAGE INSTEAD OF TRUSTING IN THE BLOOD AND SALVATION OF JESUS ALONE!
TRUSTING IN THE ELABORATE TRAPPING OF !RELIGION! VS THE SIMPLE GOSPEL OF FAITH IN CHRIST ALONE!
.
OBSESSED WITH THE FORM OF GODLINESS AND DENYING THE POWER AND REALITY OF TRUE RELIGION UNDEFILED.

Of course, as before, IF inidividual Proddys and RC's are NOT AT ALL guilty of any of the above, THEN such an exhortation is not for you. Let each person examine himself--before it's too late.

3,467 posted on 07/29/2010 3:24:13 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

No substantive point in Scripture

Nor in logic
Nor in history
Nor in facts

. . .


3,468 posted on 07/29/2010 3:25:31 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool

I’m thinking Lurkers, even Catholics won’t have too much trouble understanding these verses...

We don’t use the bible as an inkblot...We spread the word as Jesus instructed his disciples...It’s the Catholics who post links to reams and reams of pages written ‘about’ scripture, pages with written claims that the Catholic church is the only real church by relying on it’s own rituals and superstitions which it calls Catholic tradition

We have no trouble at all posting God’s written words and then committing the fruits of that endeavor to God...


AMEN INDEED.


3,469 posted on 07/29/2010 3:27:54 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool

2Co 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

==

INDEED.


3,470 posted on 07/29/2010 3:29:40 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Jvette; small voice in the wilderness; Natural Law; OLD REGGIE

What did I post deceptively? All I did is copy and post from the comments put up by the FReepers. It’s their words, not mine.

I don’t know what you mean about “Words not posted by a Catholic and deceptively posted here as if they were.” Natural Law claims to be a Catholic, unless he’s had an epiphany in the last couple hours.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=3375#3375

small voice in the wilderness (post 3,375): “THANK YOU Reggie, for that. It seems the Scripture’s PLAIN wording isn’t enough. How hard can it be to read what the word says? Unless you don’t LIKE what it says. Then what to do? I guess one can always start a religion, based not on what God’s Word says but traditions that say something very different...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=3376#3376

Natural Law (post 3,376): “ Of course it isn’t or God would not have added to the revealed Word of God through Apostolic tradition and subsequent revelation.

To attempt to comprehend the entire revealed Word of God from Scripture alone is like trying to play solitaire with an incomplete deck. “


3,471 posted on 07/29/2010 3:30:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: roamer_1

A brilliant observation... And it is not remarkable only in the aspect that our opponents’ reasoning is nearly always circular. It must be, in order to sustain a belief which is faulty. One must always orbit around that fault, never getting too close, never confronting it head on.

Sola-scriptura is a simple matter to validate:

God said stuff. He said specifically what He likes, what He doesn’t like, and what He will do.

If someone comes along claiming to be speaking in God’s name, the only means of determining the validity of what is being said is to return to the words, which we all agree, God DID say. That is the simplicity of sola-scriptura.

It really makes me wonder why the concept is fought so viciously today. [...] What are they afraid of?

That is as simple as can be: God didn’t say what they propose in the past; ergo, it is not the truth today. Allowing the testimony of the Bible to be entered into the argument defeats them wholly.


INDEED.


3,472 posted on 07/29/2010 3:31:36 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Natural Law; small voice in the wilderness

Your words copied and pasted from post 3,376 in response to post 3,375.


3,473 posted on 07/29/2010 3:32:13 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix
It often seems that “PLEASE READ CAREFULLY” is a fairly futile request for a number of folks who are obsessed with an INSTITUTION that has mangled Scripture so badly they can’t seem to make heads or tails out of fairly simple, straight-forward Scriptures.

It appears that scripture to these religionists is nothing more than a means to an end where they are forced to use tid-bits of scripture regardless of context to make that extremely weak, or non-existant connection of their religious rituals and superstitions and their religion as a whole to Christianity and the God of the Bible...

Apparently those that wise up or tire of the deception leave their religion...

3,474 posted on 07/29/2010 3:32:35 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: roamer_1

THANKS for your kind reply.


3,475 posted on 07/29/2010 3:32:43 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: metmom

You’re welcome to my words, anytime, metmom!


3,476 posted on 07/29/2010 3:34:00 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Deo volente; small voice in the wilderness
By the way, the Trinity is not explicitly stated in the Bible. It's not even moderately spelled out. Do you reject the doctrine of the Trinity? It was defined by a CATHOLIC Church council, in 325 A.D., called by a pope. It's not in the Bible.

Then where did the Catholic church get the concept?

3,477 posted on 07/29/2010 3:34:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Iscool

Agree to disagree??? You’re not [per se ultimately] disagreeing with anyone on this forum...You are disagreeing with the God of Creation who inspired Peter to understand and write these words...

1Pe 5:2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
1Pe 5:3 Neither as being lords over God’s heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.


INDEED.


3,478 posted on 07/29/2010 3:34:15 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Deo volente
Fascinating analysis. Scroll down to the appropriate section.

Won't bother...Why don't you just post the appropriate section???

3,479 posted on 07/29/2010 3:34:55 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

It appears that scripture to these religionists is nothing more than a means to an end where they are forced to use tid-bits of scripture regardless of context to make that extremely weak, or non-existant connection of their religious rituals and superstitions and their religion as a whole to Christianity and the God of the Bible...

Apparently those that wise up or tire of the deception leave their religion...


INDEED. EXTREMELY PERCEPTIVE AND VERY WELL PUT. THANKS.


3,480 posted on 07/29/2010 3:36:05 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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