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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
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| Richard Peter Bennett
Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg
So, back again to my point, how exactly does a Calvinist hold in the same "group" as a Word-of-faith pente-costal that believes in something like the one from Kenneth Copeland:
The death of Jesus on the Cross did not pay the price for sins
"It wasn't the physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin..anybody could do that"
What Satan saw on the day of Pentecost
Every prophet that walked the face of the earth under the Abrahamic covenant could have paid the price if it were a physical death only When he said It is finished on that cross, he was not speaking of the plan of redemption. The plan of redemption had just begun, there were still three days and three nights to be gone through. [Jesus] accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own Spirit, and at the moment that He did so, He cried My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?. He [Jesus] was down in that pit and there he suffered the punishment for three horrible days and nights for Adams treason... There is a new birth takes place in the very depths of the earth, when the command of God says Thats enough, loose him and let him go.
What Happened from the Cross to the Throne
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:25:46 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
To: dsc; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...
That was a BIT of hyperbole . . .
however, it’s difficult to come to any other conclusion
observing the ACTIONS of so many RC’s hereon.
The gang should get a GUFFAWS TO THE MAX laugh out of your other assertions.
However, the other assertions are evidently a pretty faithful representation of the level of understanding and discernment so many RC’s max out with hereon.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:26:41 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
and you haven’t answered the question — you said you wouldn’t worship in a Church that had icons, the Eucharists, the Crucifix. And yet Protestant groups like the Traditional Lutherans and Anglicans have these. Would you reject them too?
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:27:55 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
To: Quix
Oczywisce -- if you believe in Kenneth Copeland and the Word-of-Faith Pentecostals, that's your choice. Though it's the same guy who said
"Heaven has a north and a south and an east and a west. Consequently, it must be a planet."
Spirit, Soul and Body I 1985 audiotape #01-0601, side 1
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:29:32 PM PDT
by
Cronos
(Omnia mutantur, nihil interit)
To: Cronos
God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary.- and the little bit you left out was "And likewise in our own day, Mary, with the ever merciful affection so characteristic of her maternal heart, wishes,through her efficacious intercession with God, to deliver her children from the sad and grief-laden troubles, from the tribulations, the anxiety, the difficulties, and the punishments of God's anger which afflict the world because of the sins of men. Wishing to restrain and to dispel the violent hurricane of evils which, as We lament from the bottom of Our heart, are everywhere afflicting the Church, Mary desires to transform Our sadness into joy. The foundation of all Our confidence, as you know well, Venerable Brethren, is found in the Blessed Virgin MaryNow. Is that better to you? There it all is, in all its glory. For all to see and read. And ponder.
To: dsc
Anybody remember Sinkspur, who presented himself as a Catholic deacon for so long, all the while attacking the Church? Sinkspur, who was the pet and darling of the Religion Forum moderatorsuntil he was exposed as a fraud? Remember him well. News to me about the fraud, though. I exiled myself for many years from the RF ghetto.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:34:39 PM PDT
by
don-o
(Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
To: dsc
Holy mackerel. I remember Sinkspur, but my memory fails me from there.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:37:02 PM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wmfights
And that’s what this is ALL about. For people to learn something new every day. Maranatha!
To: Cronos; small voice in the wilderness
Of course, what you posted was wrong, since the preachers who fed you this hate of course tell lies and use incomplete extracts to bring people away from God and His Church. The incomplete extract that you posted was God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary.- and the little bit you left out was "And likewise in our own day, Mary, with the ever merciful affection so characteristic of her maternal heart, wishes,through her efficacious intercession with God, to deliver her children from the sad and grief-laden troubles, from the tribulations, the anxiety, the difficulties, and the punishments of God's anger which afflict the world because of the sins of men. Wishing to restrain and to dispel the violent hurricane of evils which, as We lament from the bottom of Our heart, are everywhere afflicting the Church, Mary desires to transform Our sadness into joy. The foundation of all Our confidence, as you know well, Venerable Brethren, is found in the Blessed Virgin Mary
Even more damning and an obvious example of Mary Idolatory.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:44:11 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: Dr. Eckleburg; the_conscience
"Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt." (Romans 4:4).
I'm pretty sure God is not interested in being in DEBT to a "worker".
To: Quix
...its kind of educational to learn where some of the smoke comes from. Yes it is. I enjoy searching for the truth, especially in areas concerning Christianity.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:48:08 PM PDT
by
wmfights
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To: OLD REGGIE
It’s kind of sad when folks one cares for
seem to have no clue about stopping digging.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:48:45 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: OLD REGGIE; Cronos
Defending the Indefensible 101: When digging that hole, know when to stop.
To: small voice in the wilderness
“Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.” (Romans 4:4).
I’m pretty sure God is not interested in being in DEBT to a “worker”.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:49:29 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: wmfights
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:50:19 PM PDT
by
Quix
(THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
To: Cronos; small voice in the wilderness
your lot doesnt read scripture, rather it reads excerpts of Scripture. That's so silly it's actually funny.
Other than Free Republic I have never encountered RC's with even a basic understanding of Scripture.
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:51:58 PM PDT
by
wmfights
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To: Cronos; dsc
lets see, there were lies repeated. You repeated them. That doesnt mean you are the originator. No, there are earlier demagogues who fed you and the other Church haters here their words. How is it personal if it is pointed out that you repeated these statements?
The claim that I repeated lies is, in itself, a lie.
Are you a native English language speaker or is English a second language?
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:55:16 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
To: wmfights
We don't have to have unity in all things, it's only the control freaks in the RCC that demand it. We are united by our faith in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit and our faith in The Gospel. We are united by the indwelling Holy Spirit. We may have very different understandings of free will vs predestination, covenant theology vs premillenialism, church structure, etc., but we share a common faith and an indwelling Holy Spirit. The differences make for interesting discussions, but they are only matters of discernment not salvation.
Unfortunately, your church has taken a different road and you are separated from the Body of Christ because of it. The good news is you can throw off that man made yoke of works, legalism, rituals, and submission to men anytime and join the Body of Christ by having Faith Alone in Christ Alone.
AMEN!
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:55:32 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: small voice in the wilderness
Amen
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posted on
07/26/2010 3:57:30 PM PDT
by
wmfights
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To: Cronos; dsc; a small voice in the wildernes; the_conscience; Quix
A very good description, but one I am afraid that none of the posters will read it
And a very good example of the "bury them with bull----" theory.
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posted on
07/26/2010 4:00:50 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am a Biblical Unitarian?)
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