Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Amen
Our works that are chaff and wood will be burned up in the refiners fire, but our works that are precious stones and metals will be made all the more beautiful to see. It all depends on which side of the Cross you're standing.
Dominic and Therese of Lisieux both consoled those bewailing their imminent death by saying they could help them more in heaven than by staying on earth.
Nice thought.
Nice conjecture.
I don’t think so.
When God says REST,
He means REST.
Nobody who’s a real Christian.
Ouch.....
-- 1 Corinthians 9:27
------ One of the many verses that I had "explained away" to me back in my sola day. I forget how - probably because the explanation was nonsense.
The Matthew 25 passage is amazing for the surprise expressed by both sheep and goats about doing / not doing and the consequences of same.
John 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
16”For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
LOL
Suffering with joy (and for Jesus and others) is good. Praying is good. Eucharist consumption can save your life. All that I listed, and so much more, will help lead one down a holy path to God. Satan only wins if you let him.
See WC 1.9 again. Especially, "it must be searched and known by other places that speak more clearly."
Do you have links for this?
No, I have a life.
Catholics are "dismissive" of Scripture? How many books are there in your Bible?
Is the volume of ones Bible more important than whether one believes it's actual content?
If Scripture is so clear and easily interpreted why do you need the Westminister Catechism to explain how to do it?
I'm not sure why what the WC says is so hard to understand. So I'll deconstruct it for you:
yet those things which are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation are so clearly propounded, and opened in some place of Scripture or other, that not only the learned, but the unlearned, in a due use of the ordinary means, may attain unto a sufficient understanding of them (Ps. 119:105, 130)
So the catechism teaches that the most important things of Scripture necessary for salvation are clear from the Bible itself and no outside interpreter is needed to know these things. This was one of the major issues of the Reformation because the Romanist Church was claiming the ordinary man was too stupid to understand even what was necessary for salvation from reading the Bible alone.
All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all
Yet not everything in Scripture is clear by itself and to progress in sanctification it's helpful to have good teachers and confessions.
"And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:"(Philippians 3:9).
"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ,, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified." (Gal. 2:16).
"I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain." (Gal. 2:21).
Tell me,...
Who is perfect after being saved? Who is capable of never sinning again, ever?
We all stumble and fall because of our humanness, but that doesn’t mean we have to fear going to hell for it.
David was a man after God’s own heart, even though he sinned tremendously.
Abraham took matters into his own hands to try to fulfill God’s promise to him and he is still considered righteous.
Goodness, even Lot is called *righteous* in second Peter, and Lot is the last man I’d consider the term *righteous* to be appropriate for....
II Peter 2:7...and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men...
Does your child cease to become your child just because they disobey and disappoint you on occasion? If you adopted him, do you give him back if he doesn’t listen? What would you think of the kind of parent who would do that or threaten to do that?
Either the person who claims to be a Christian and lives a life of habitual sin isn’t really one in the first place, or if they are, they’d better watch out for the correcting hand of God in discipline to straighten them out.
Even if one could lose salvation because of works, I seriously doubt it’s saved today and not tomorrow and you’d better hope that if you die it’s not before you get to confession and communion again. God’s will is not that any should perish but that all come to repentance. He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.
He’s not nearly as quick to damn as I was brought up believing.
This from a previous post ... do you think, then, that Fr. John Corapi and Mother Teresa of Calcutta were hoodwinked by the devil? (You haven’t answered yet on this point.)
the_conscience: “I’ve seen many Romanists on this board claim that Paul was not trinitarian and write him off because they believed so.”
wagglebee: “Do you have links for this?”
the_conscience: “No, I have a life.”
You just made a charge against “many Romanists” on this board.
That’s quite a charge to make against a large group.
You may have a life, but I and others reading your post want that charge proved or withdrawn.
So, is this the Westminster Catechism's way of acknowledging that YOPIOS doesn't work?
No, I have a life.
Good for you, but without any supporting links I must dismiss your contention that Catholics "claim that Paul was not trinitarian and write him off because they believed so."
Is the volume of ones Bible more important than whether one believes it's actual content?
Is this another way of saying that the YOPIOS crowd believes what they think supports their theology and redacts what doesn't?
I'm not sure why what the WC says is so hard to understand.
I never said it was hard to understand, I asked why the YOPIOS crowd believes it's necessary.
So the catechism teaches that the most important things of Scripture necessary for salvation are clear from the Bible itself and no outside interpreter is needed to know these things.
Yet the Westminister Catechism itself interpretes Scripture and EVERY Christian bookstore is full of countless, and often contradictory, interpretations of Scripture.
Yet not everything in Scripture is clear by itself and to progress in sanctification it's helpful to have good teachers and confessions.
This sounds suspiciously like Scripture AND tradition.
They throw the kitchen sink and all the garbage against a wall and expect us just to give them a pass.
I believe that the ending passage of Matthew 25 explains Christianity better than any other single passage in the entire Bible.
So, it’s entirely possible that Stalin is in Heaven and Mother Teresa is in Hell?
Why don’t you give the passages in this post a shot:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2554678/posts?page=1286#1286
A total misunderstanding of the scriptures on your part...
YOu are on the side of the cross where the church was not yet established...
Apparently you guys have chosen the scripture as your own that takes place before the establishment of the church as well as the events that take place after the church is taken out, to participate in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb...
Most all of the scripture that pertains directly to the church that Jesus established, you guys relegate to the trash can...
No, of course not...Don't confuse your catechism with the scripture...
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