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Testimony of a Former Irish Priest
BereanBeacon.Org ^ | Richard Peter Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2010 6:04:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“I know dozens of divorced and practicing Roman Catholics who attend mass every Sunday.”

I doubt you know “dozens.” Divorced Catholics are allowed to attend mass, and if they have not remarried can be given the Eucharist. If their marriage was annulled, or if they were never married in the eyes of the Church, they can partake even if they are remarried.


1,141 posted on 07/20/2010 5:17:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: mlizzy; small voice in the wilderness
I John 5:10-13 Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

Scripture says that we can know. John says that that is why he wrote those things to fellow believers, that they might KNOW that they have eternal life.

1,142 posted on 07/20/2010 5:19:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: don-o

They also have a singular fixation on foot washing as Christ did to the apostles.

Go figure.


1,143 posted on 07/20/2010 5:19:55 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Judith Anne

I know. But, it’s a special occasion. She shall be the icon of the rabid clique, if y’all wish.


1,144 posted on 07/20/2010 5:19:57 PM PDT by don-o (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Dispensationalism. Another proddy (to use Quix's term) piece of nonsense, the most recent form invented around the year 1800.

Keep telling yourself what "side of the cross" you're on, if it makes you feel good.

I'm on the side of Christ and His Church. Period.

1,145 posted on 07/20/2010 5:20:48 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Divorce isn't an arbiter of liberalism or conservatism.

On the contrary, yes it is. Any "church" that condones divorce and remarriage is by its nature liberal.

1,146 posted on 07/20/2010 5:22:18 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: OpusatFR
Ahhhhh....yesyesyes...numinous experience not being comparable to a material experience...Here's an experience that will be both numinous and material: "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might BE SAVED." (2 Thess. 2:9,10).

A numinous experience, a material experience, a spiritual experience, and a physical experience.

1,147 posted on 07/20/2010 5:24:10 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Keep telling yourself that you are on the side of Christ and His Church. if it makes you feel good. Period.


1,148 posted on 07/20/2010 5:26:27 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Iscool
No one in the scriptures required someone to convert from their old ways in order to be saved...

You've read scripture, yet make such an absurd assertion? You're joking, right?

1,149 posted on 07/20/2010 5:27:55 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: OpusatFR

That isn’t an answer to my question.


1,150 posted on 07/20/2010 5:27:59 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Are you a Bullingerite?


1,151 posted on 07/20/2010 5:29:50 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: wagglebee
However, even Lutheranism wandered far away from many of Luther’s teachings

Confessional Lutheran doctrine is based upon Scripture that hasn't wandered anywhere. I am aware of some of Brother Martin's opinions that are not incorporated into that Confession, but not 'teachings' whatever they may be.

1,152 posted on 07/20/2010 5:31:32 PM PDT by xone
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To: RobbyS
If they are only "symbols" of Him, then what is the point of conducting the "service."

Two reasons. First and foremost is that He commanded us to keep His supper.

And the other is tied to it and the reason He gave Himself, it shows His death until He comes and to do it in remembrance of Him.

how is it more meaningful than, say, ceremoniously washing the feet of your fellow church members?

Because Jesus never said to wash others feet in remembrance of His death and to show His death until He comes.

I never did go to a church that practiced foot washing. I've heard of them, but never had the uh,... pleasure.....

1,153 posted on 07/20/2010 5:32:54 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

You are still arguing apples and transendental meditation, or horseflys and Communion.

The concept of Eternal Salvation is not comparable to nine months of pregnancy.


1,154 posted on 07/20/2010 5:32:59 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: metmom
The only ones who seem not to know are the very ones who THINK they can do something to impress God. The very definition of vanity. I can. I will. I..I..I..

There aren't enough scriptures in the world to show someone who thinks they can that they can't. It only takes one. Or an infinite number. Depending on the size of the vanity mirror.

1,155 posted on 07/20/2010 5:34:16 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: wmfights; Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator
DR.E. I wasn't going to respond because the truth of the RCC being liberal is self evident. I am responding now because you are (as usual) being pointed to as having said something so terrible it offended the sensibilities of posters that are better off on a caucus thread.

You didn't offend my sensibilities. As a matter of fact, you have worn a few calluses on my hide. That's not my complaint: You said Catholics are liberal! That is self-evident only in your distorted reasoning.

You might want to consider how many Catholics are here, and how active we are on ALL forums. I don't think the RM wants all Catholics tarred with YOUR liberal brush, and even if you somehow get away with it, you have lost something very important.

1,156 posted on 07/20/2010 5:34:59 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Its not about feelings. Its about Truth.

If you are right, I'm still "saved." As a committed Catholic, I have of course "accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior." And I continue to do so every day.

Now if I'm right, you are in a very deficient position.

Either way, I have no worries, mate.

1,157 posted on 07/20/2010 5:35:34 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: don-o

Um, well, in that case...


1,158 posted on 07/20/2010 5:36:10 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Ahhhhh....the age old question that ALWAYS pops up. Are you a Bullingerite?

And the answer that you will not like. I am a practicing non-catholic. I vote, I own a dog, and I dislike green bean casserole. Any more questions?

1,159 posted on 07/20/2010 5:37:15 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Divorce isn't an arbiter of liberalism or conservatism.

Orthodox Christianity uniformly and universally condemns abortion, divorce and remarriage, homosexuality and contraception.

Any "church" that deviates from this moral theology orthodoxy is liberal.

1,160 posted on 07/20/2010 5:37:49 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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