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To: Colofornian
If "Prevaricate/prevarication" was a rare character trait of Mormons, I don't think we'd see a common Google association, now would we?

You can judge the truth by counting Google hits? Who knew?

If that is the best you have to offer, I think it is time to go to bed.

664 posted on 07/06/2010 9:50:23 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Logophile
You can judge the truth by counting Google hits? Who knew?

Google hits can provide hints that where there's a LOT of smoke, there's plenty of fire.

I told you last post that it's up to individuals who google that to check out that smoke. But I'll tell you what: I'll post one of those "fiery" sources tomorrow for you. (In fact it'll likely be the source that introduced me to that word...just need to track it down)

667 posted on 07/06/2010 10:03:02 PM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Logophile; Godzilla; reaganaut; greyfoxx39; SZonian
Re: our earlier discussion on how the word "prevarication" is often linked with Mormonism.

The Lds apologetics org, FAIR, posted this lengthy article by Gregory L. Smith, MD: Polygamy, Prophets, and Prevarication

You can read it for yourself. I'll give you a quick paraphrased upshot as it pertained at least to concessions Gregory Smith made about prevarication & deception within Mormon history.

In the article, Smith concedes:
* Polygamy was lied about during Nauvoo years (Smith puts lying in quotations);
* Lying for the Lord has been taught & implied by some Mormons;
* Just because some Mormon leaders lied, he still contended any takeaways somebody might glean from that -- that it might somehow be construed as a condition tolerated w/in the Lds community when he felt it wasn't;
* Some Lds leaders, like George Q. Cannon of the First Presidency around the turn of the century, favored denying any specific charges about the practice of polygamy in Utah [Smith cited Michael Quinn "Authority and New Plural Marriages" as a source];
* He said the Manifesto sanctioned active misdirection;
* He said with the Church's destruction at stake, the manifesto "extended the degree of deception which was permissible" in order to keep that from happening. Therefore, 'twas Woodruff's duty to provide a formal doc which he knew to be false in some of its particulars. * Woodruff sought to maintain "plausible deniability." How did he do that? Well, while he'd refuse to personally approve a post-Manifesto polygamous marriage, he'd turn around & refer these potential polygamists to counselor George Q. Cannon for a recommend!

Logo 'twas this kind of open deception that Mormon apologist Gregory L. Smith conceded to occur that has long stayed with the Lds reputation-wise.

If you click on any of the MANY sub-titles of that paper where the word "Lying" appears...you'll find all these comments Smith made.

1,466 posted on 07/08/2010 8:48:35 PM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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