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To: ArrogantBustard; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg
Since, as you agree, none of us on this forum can infallibly interpret Scripture, it follows that none of us will truly understand it in this life. Yes, that's sad ... it's a direct and inescapable result of The Fall.

I think it is sad for her, because I believe that we can indeed understand 90% or more of scripture using good methods.. Scripture always interprets scripture.. so if one is a student of the word one can understand it ..one can draw out types and shadows.. what we do not see is the mysteries that belong only to God.. We do not see prophetic scriptures until they are fulfilled.. my God is not a mystery writer he wrote the word to reveal Himself and the means of salvation..

That appears to be a contradiction. Given that we will not fully understand some things in Scripture, and that none of us interpret infallibly, to say that the Sciptures are clear to anyone is absurd. I believe that, for the one who studies and prays, Scripture at times can seem very clear (But never perfectly so. Beware.), and at times very far from clear.

As I said above, God reveals Himself, He does not hide.. My experience is that the more I grow, the more I study the more He reveals to me..The scriptures are intended to be read.. they help us know God and OURSELVES . Through them we can learn how God sees us.. we are driven to our knees in repentance by His word.. We are brought to praise by his word.

It's also not an excuse to reject the visible, universal Church which God gave us.

I belong to the visible universal church which was born on Pentecost.. the church of the scriptures..not men

410 posted on 07/06/2010 3:23:49 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

I think it is sad for her, because I believe that we can indeed understand 90% or more of scripture using good methods.. Scripture always interprets scripture.. so if one is a student of the word one can understand it ..one can draw out types and shadows.. what we do not see is the mysteries that belong only to God.. We do not see prophetic scriptures until they are fulfilled.. my God is not a mystery writer he wrote the word to reveal Himself and the means of salvation..

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I agree.


445 posted on 07/06/2010 3:59:34 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: RnMomof7
As I said above, God reveals Himself, He does not hide

Isaiah 45:15
Truly, thou art a God who hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Savior.

Just sayin'. It ain't always that simple.

473 posted on 07/06/2010 4:23:32 PM PDT by Mad Dawg ("Be kind to everyone you meet, for every person is fighting a great battle" -- St. Ephraim)
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To: RnMomof7
I belong to the visible universal church which was born on Pentecost.. the church of the scriptures

Dittos. (You are Peter, and on this rock I will build me Church...I give you the keys...what you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven...the gates of hell will not prevail...unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood you have no life within you, for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink...)

497 posted on 07/06/2010 4:36:22 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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