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To: Mad Dawg

Yes, Mad Dawg, Paul was given a new program, a mystery, hid in God, to dispense. This new program was given by Christ to Paul and from Paul to the Church the Body of Christ. The author of the dispensation is God. The message of that dispensation is given to us through Paul from Jesus Christ. Paul gives us the message. He doesn’t dispense grace, he dispenses the message of God’s grace.


1,893 posted on 07/11/2010 8:11:21 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness; All
I get that some of you are, unaccountably, unconvinced by my fabulous arguments. So here's the clincher:

Catholics, indeed, Dominicans, introduced CHOCOLATE to Western Europe. AND Pope Saint Pius the Vth, OP, said that to take chocolate on Friday was not a violation of the Friday fast.

For those of you from Rio Linda, "OP" stands for Ordo Praedicatorum [I THINK that's right] or the "Order of Preachers" aka "Dominicans".)

I rest my case.

1,898 posted on 07/11/2010 9:56:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Dominicans ROCK!)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
He doesn’t dispense grace, he dispenses the message of God’s grace.

Do you then hold that the message of God's grace is not itself gracious? It must be so.

For
IF the message of God's grace is gracious,
AND IF the person giving the can of tomatoes gives the tomatoes of which the can is full,
AND IF Paul dispensed the mesage of God's grace,
THEN Paul dispensed the grace of which the message was full
AND THEN Paul dispensed some grace.

SO
If Paul did not dispense grace
THEN the message of grace is not gracious.

Note: the suffice "-ous" is from the Latin "osus" meaning "full of".

1,901 posted on 07/11/2010 10:22:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (O Maria, sine labe concepta, ora pro nobis qui ad te confugimus.)
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