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To: metmom
I really like this one...

7. There Is No Salvation Outside Of The Catholic Church – Originally stated by St. Cyprian, the Latin axiom “Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus” reminds us that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church. This dogma was declared at the Fourth Lateran Council and is a source of confusion for Catholics and non-Catholics alike. According to the Catechism, all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is His Body.

Their catechism is lying to them...They are lying about what Jesus said...

Jesus says you are added to the church AFTER you are saved...The church has no role to play in Salvation...

It does not mean that non-Catholics cannot achieve salvation. Individuals who are unaware that the Catholic Church is the one, true Church may still achieve salvation through the merits of the Church, despite their lack of knowledge.

This is not what they originally said...They originally said those who reject the Catholic Church are also exempt from Salvation...

Right out of the pit of Hell...Hopefully we can reach some of these people before the Rapture of the real church...God is going to deal with those folks just as he says He will in Revelation 17...

1,827 posted on 07/10/2010 4:26:50 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; RnMomof7; boatbums; Dr. Eckleburg

I’ve been posting this from vatican.va, the only sire, so we’re told, that contains what the RCC “really” teaches.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church says.....

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

“Outside the Church there is no salvation”

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

So, all those Catholics that I grew up with and worked with who believe that non-Catholics are going to hell weren’t wrong. Who is wrong is those who call themselves Catholic who deny the basic tenets of their own religion.


1,829 posted on 07/10/2010 4:56:41 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Iscool

Number 4 is also most interesting, again, denied by many Catholics on this forum. We ex-Catholics and non-Catholics have been saying that the Catholic Church teaches that the sacrifice of the mass is re-sacrificing Christ anew every time. And here it is....

http://catholicexchange.com/2010/07/09/132128/

4. The Mass Is The Same Sacrifice As Calvary – The biggest mistake that many Catholics make is treating the Holy Mass as “just another church service”, similar to those held by other religions. In the Mass, Christ’s Sacrifice on the Cross is made present, its memory is celebrated and its saving power is applied. The Council of Trent teaches that Christ left a visible sacrifice to His Church “in which that bloody sacrifice which was once offered on the Cross should be made present, its memory preserved to the end of the world, and its salvation-bringing power applied to the forgiveness of the sins which are daily committed by us.” When we attend Mass, we are mystically transported to Calvary, where we can unite ourselves with the Lord’s Sacrifice to the Father!


1,830 posted on 07/10/2010 5:01:16 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Iscool
IMO, He is either going to deal with them before the Rapture or He's going to send them a strong delusion.

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders. And with all deceivableness of unrigheousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie; That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thess. 2:9-12).

1,845 posted on 07/10/2010 6:40:50 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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