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To: Elsie; Logophile; Godzilla; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN
Zugzwang (German for "compulsion to move", pronounced [ˈtsuːktsvaŋ]) is a term originally used in chess which also applies to various other games. The concept finds its formal definition in combinatorial game theory. It describes a situation where one player is put at a disadvantage because he has to make a move – the player would prefer to pass and make no move. The fact that the player must make a move means that his position will be significantly weaker than the hypothetical one in which it were his opponent's turn to move.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugzwang

In this position White has a few pawn moves left which do not lose material, but then he will have to move one of his pieces, which will result in the loss of material, and consequently, the game.

In following this conversation between Logophile and Godzilla, I knew as soon as I saw these questions of Godzilla's at 1,449 that Logophile would not answer them, for to do so honestly, with the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth, so help him God, would result, to continue the chess analogy, in loss of material, and thus the game

In this position White has a few useless pawn moves left, but after that he has to move a piece. Sure enough, at 1,455 and following we see Logophile's useless pawn moves at in a futile attempt to deflect and delay the inevitable.

If the center of the board in this game represents truth (as opposed to lying (by omission or otherwise) Godzilla controls it, and consequently the whole board.

I might add that, regarding the context of Robert Millet's remarks, that if Cardinal Newman ever said anything remotely resembling Robert's Millet's statements about what to disclose and what not to disclose, then Charles Kingsley would have been entirely justified in hypothesizing that truth was not the highest value for Newman, and would not have been "poisoning the well" for doing so.

No, what we have here is legitimate Zugzwang.

Cordially,

1,573 posted on 07/09/2010 10:31:25 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond; Elsie; Logophile; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN
No, what we have here is legitimate Zugzwang.

Thank you Diamond - elegantly described, although I can't claim it wasn't so elegantly designed in my mind lol.

1,581 posted on 07/09/2010 10:58:17 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Diamond

this is good......


1,593 posted on 07/09/2010 11:15:23 AM PDT by caww
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