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On intemperate and indiscreet zeal. (The Primary Fault of many Religion Forum posters)
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Posted on 07/06/2010 6:54:33 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: small voice in the wilderness; Quix
Yep. And just LOOK at all the RC’s here defending their belief! It’s like someone shouted FIRE! they seem to have evacuated. Even the ‘you’re not the boss of me’ snippet who likes to enter the fray, throw a few rolls, and leave in a huff. Let she/he who hath understanding SEE YOURSELF in this. lol!

What? We're supposed to be here 24/7/365 answering the same questions over and over and over and over and over? Do you REALLY expect us to read Quix's technicolor dream posts and try to make some sense out of his rants?

Please. You are less than Mary. You throw verbal stones. At least SHE points to Christ.

1,801 posted on 07/10/2010 1:07:06 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Mad Dawg
You make up your own language, confusing 'dispenser' with 'source' when the normal everyday usage of the word has no such confusion.

There is nothing in scripture that indicates that any one other than God is the dispenser of Grace...Sometime during that last millennium, your religion invented the idea that Mary was the dispenser of all of the Grace...

So what prompted that invention??? It wasn't tradition...Someone came up with the idea...Who was it??? And when???

1,802 posted on 07/10/2010 1:14:42 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

Can you not understand?

GOD is the ONLY source of ALL GRACE! No grace happens outside GOD!!

That’s what Catholics believe! Mary does NOTHING without God! No saint does ANYTHING without GOD!

We KNOW all grace comes from God. His grace flows from Him to us, through us, to others, through others.

You cannot say that grace did not come from God through Mary, because Grace came from God through Mary. God chose her.


1,803 posted on 07/10/2010 1:20:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

A little testy, aren’t we???


1,804 posted on 07/10/2010 1:24:12 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Judith Anne
We KNOW all grace comes from God. His grace flows from Him to us, through us, to others, through others.

Grace doesn't flow thru me to others...Or thru you to others...Or thru Mary to others...

1,805 posted on 07/10/2010 1:27:49 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

What of it?


1,806 posted on 07/10/2010 1:29:48 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

Why so intemperate, Judith Anne? Don’t get your rosary in a bunch. Just stand and deliver with truth. We like truth. It’s what separates the saved from the damned.


1,807 posted on 07/10/2010 1:30:59 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Iscool
Grace doesn't flow thru me to others...

I stand corrected.

1,808 posted on 07/10/2010 1:31:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
Why so intemperate, Judith Anne?

ROFL!! I'm annoyed, QUIX is intemperate. LOL!

1,809 posted on 07/10/2010 1:35:24 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Quix

sorry, forgot to ping you to 1809


1,810 posted on 07/10/2010 1:36:40 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; Quix
I wouldn't presume to speak for Quix. I'll just say I'm intolerant. Of willful ignorance. And shameful outbursts of nothingness.

But that's just me..

1,811 posted on 07/10/2010 1:42:23 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: Judith Anne
Does that reflect the teachings of your church?

Every church teachings should be solely based on God's Word - otherwise, they are no church of HIS.

You cherry-piced four verses

What's your beef? The cherry or the four? I certainly can give you more. I gave you appropriate Scripture that applied to the issues at hand.

I am not interested in your church, or your sermons. Interest. Itinerant internet preachers

Again, it's GOD'S WORD you aren't interested in since I never mentioned my church.

Sermon?? Internet preachers?? LOL

Am I that good? It all God's Word, not mine - so ALL the praise goes to HIM. ;) Doesn't matter if you aren't interested in HIS PLAN, HIS WAY - God's Word will ALWAYS BE and NEVER CHANGE.

He doesn't ask for our 'interest', HE asks for our obedience.
1,812 posted on 07/10/2010 3:12:43 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: small voice in the wilderness; Elsie; Quix

See Post #1711 -


1,813 posted on 07/10/2010 3:22:42 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; Petronski
Every church teachings should be solely based on God's Word - otherwise, they are no church of HIS.

Great! As Petronski would say, you agree with the Catholic Church.

Again, it's GOD'S WORD you aren't interested in since I never mentioned my church.

Wrong. It's YOUR word I'm not interested in. I love the Word of God.

He doesn't ask for our 'interest', HE asks for our obedience.

Fine. You obey your god, I'll obey Jesus Christ, Risen Son of the Living Almighty God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

1,814 posted on 07/10/2010 3:24:47 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
At least SHE points to Christ.

AHHHHHHHHHHH, RIGHT . . . . LIKE IN

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OF THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLES SO ABUNDANTLY ILLUSTRATED IN SUCH A WAY AS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT POINTING TO CHRIST BY SUCH FAITHFUL AUTHORS AMONGST THE ADDICTIVELY OBSESSED WITH MARY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INSTITUTION! VERY IMPRESSIVE, THOSE VIVID EXAMPLES

OF SUCH A HOLY AND HONORABLE FOCUS ON AND POINTING TO CHRIST!

/satire

p.32[Quixicated emphases below]

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Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

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4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

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Let's here it again now: HIP HIP HOOOOORAY FOR MARY! BTW, throw a crumb of praise to what's His Face--her first son!

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5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

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6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

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Let's here it again, now, louder: HIP HIP HOOOOOORAY FOR MARY! GOOD ON YA MARY! POLISH THAT HALO SOME MORE, MARY! GREAT GOING! CHEERS!

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Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

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"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

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THAT'S A GREAT ONE, MARY! SUPER CHEERS FOR THAT ACHIEVEMENT! WONDERMUS! BTW, did you chop down the original TREE OF LIFE or just shove Him aside as a young upstart?

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1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

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AHHHHHHHHHHHH, THAT'S A NICE TOUCH, MARY. Giving a milk sop to your Son. How generous of you as you elbow your way into the God-Head. What a gracious touch.

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6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.' [Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

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WOW MARY! GOOD ON YA! Greater Grace than that conferred upon ALL others! That should put your upstart Son in His place. Obviously He's ONLY a Son. Yo BE THE SUPER MOTHER and all! That should teach em all, SUPER MOTHER SUPERIOR!

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7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue." [Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

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HEY MARY--GREAT GOING that you caught that insufficient, flawed, week kneed performance on that ugly cross thingy. WHAT A GREAT SAVE that you did for your son to END DARKNESS and all vices and BEGIN virtue for Him. Must have made His job a LOT easier. SUPER MOM, INDEED!

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9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.' [Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

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WHAT ANOTHER GREAT SAVE, MARY! Obviously God kept losing His keys so HE GAVE THEM TO SUPER MOM! What GRACIOUS WISDOM--stepping in to save the day for GOD ALMIGHTY, YET AGAIN! YEA MARY!

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4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.' [Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

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WOW! MARY! DESTROYING SIN! WHAT A GRAND TASK! That must have saved your first Son a tremendously rough adolescence! And think of all the other teens your GRACIOUS SIN DESTROYING WHITE HANKYS SAVED SUUUUUUUCH HEARTACHE AND MISDOINGS! SUPER MOM WINS AGAIN!

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5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought." [QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

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. WHAT WISDOM SUPER MOM! Who knows what that upstart FIRST Son of yours might have done with sin. Goodness, some pretty young thing on a donkey with racing stripes might have terminally distracted Him. Another GREAT SAVE BY SUPER MOM! Sparing her FIRST Son yet another masssive challenge and trouble. What a Mom!

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10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

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YEAH, MORE MAGNIFICANT MAGIC MARY WISDOM. Thanks SUPER MOM! Who knows where trusting that upstart FIRST Son of yours would have led the crazy world. Far better to trust in SUPER MOM!

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8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

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YEAH, SUPER MOM, that Cross thing stretched between Heaven and Earth--joined by that priceless thread of Holy Blood between--that gig was just not well thought out. All Creation must be eternally thankful to you that you were there holding your FIRST Son and His mission and even that ugly cross up by your Miraculous Magnificent Magic heart! What another Grand Accomplishment SUPER MOM! ATLAS SUPER MOM HOLDING THE WHOLE EARTH AND ALL CREATION UP REDEMPTIVELY TO GOD HIMSELF. Besides, your FIRST Son obviously needed a rest carrying that ridiculous cross that horridly painful distance. Good on ya!

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4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

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HEY SUPER MOM! HOW FITTING FOR YOU TO SHOEHORN YOUR WAY INTO THE GOD-HEAD LIKE THAT--GIVEN ALL YOUR SUPER MOM ACCOMPLISHMENTS! That should put your upstart FIRST Son in his place forever! Good on ya!

/satire to the max.

1,815 posted on 07/10/2010 3:26:41 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Iscool

There is nothing in scripture that indicates that any one other than God is the dispenser of Grace...Sometime during that last millennium, your religion invented the idea that Mary was the dispenser of all of the Grace...

So what prompted that invention??? It wasn’t tradition...Someone came up with the idea...Who was it??? And when???


INDEED!


1,816 posted on 07/10/2010 3:28:21 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

WOW.

INDEED.

WOW.


1,817 posted on 07/10/2010 3:32:15 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix; Mad Dawg

Quix, you must have been out of it. Mad Dawg replied to each and every one of those so-called “questions” of yours regarding the Blessed Virgin Mary.

I have nothing to add, except that your so-called “satire to the max” is poorly done.


1,818 posted on 07/10/2010 3:32:52 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

LOL.

The candor and humility wear well on you.


1,819 posted on 07/10/2010 3:33:08 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: presently no screen name

Every church teachings should be solely based on God’s Word - otherwise, they are no church of HIS.


INDEED!


1,820 posted on 07/10/2010 3:34:01 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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