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To: TaraP; All
Do you all have any thoughts on this scripture?

Well, one point of view is this:

To put it in context: Note that it was G-d who told Rebecca that Esau would serve Jacob. Then we have the birthright given to Jacob (legitimately, Esau gives it away) and Jacob recieves the blessing by trickery. And now Esau is ticked-off!

Genesis 27: 41And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

Jacob gets out of Dodge and ends up with Laban and his daughters. Does his time there and is commanded to return home by an Angel!

After an encounter with Laban, Angels arrive! He knows he is to meet up with Esau again and he is afraid! He knows Esau's temper! he says this:

11Deliver me, I pray thee, from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau: for I fear him, lest he will come and smite me, and the mother with the children.

But before he meets with Esau, he wrestles with another Angel all night long. Why? When the Angel is unable to defeat him, Jacob asks for his blessing. Why? Because he obtained his first blessing through trickery...now he seeks an honest blessing....and gets it!

It is thought that this Angel was Esau's guardian Angel, sent by G-d to right the wrong.

When Esau meets Jacob (Israel) he is filled with joy, not anger! And Jacob tries to give Esau tribute and says this:

10And Jacob said, Nay, I pray thee, if now I have found grace in thy sight, then receive my present at my hand: for therefore I have seen thy face, as though I had seen the face of God, and thou wast pleased with me.

The connection: "I have seen thy face, as though I had seen the face of God" just as his encounter with the Angel the night before.

69 posted on 07/05/2010 3:17:17 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: blasater1960

Okay you said: The connection: “I have seen thy face, as though I had seen the face of God” just as his encounter with the Angel the night before.
But how?

Through a dream? a vision? a face to face how we as poeople of today would see someone face to face? or through his
Pineal Gland?

Let me put it this way...Atheists will say constantly no proof of G-D, the Bible just ancient fairytales, etc...If you cannot find GOD first within yourself, how can you find him out of yourself?

When the Philistines captured the Arc of the Covenant they did not know how to worship Yahweh so they died, so the Pineal Gland where we enact prayer through faith must be what Jacob was speaking of?


72 posted on 07/05/2010 3:40:19 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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