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To: Dr. Eckleburg
No, they don't.

If Free Will was demonstrated to be true, would you accept it?

962 posted on 07/15/2010 6:30:18 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
lol. First, you will have to define free will. Then offer as much proof as you desire. It doesn't matter. If God exists, everything is by, for and through Jesus Christ, as Colossians 1 tells us.

Life is Christocentric, whether men are aware of that fact or not.

I hope you got the irony of the cartoon. Calvin had to go flying off the cliff in the snow because that was his nature. And his free will didn't help him when he wanted to fly, but couldn't. His will was limited, just like ours is.

If your "demonstration" entails some gruesome story and the question, "Did God do this?" I will save you the effort. God did not "do it," but God permits evil to occur because it somehow plays a part in His plan for His creation.

Thankfully, we believe Paul who assures us that "we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."

"All things."

965 posted on 07/15/2010 6:44:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg

There is either God’s will or man’s will. Man does not have a “free will” to do the things of God unless he is given that will by God. If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. Only a regenerated person is set free to do the things of God and we must be set free by the Son.


966 posted on 07/15/2010 6:46:18 PM PDT by HarleyD
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