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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; kosta50

Thank you so much for your exposition in Post #882.

I’ve been trying for a while to express that very thought, with varying degrees of success. You have stated it well and plainly enough for those not as well read in the sciences to understand.

In your last line you depart from your usual ending in a most significant way that provides a perfect segue to my own exposition of metaphysics as an extension of language.

You have included the Greek Alpha and Omega, titled to Christ in Revelation 22:13 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”

As we have discussed in the past, the reference to “Alpha and Omega” would be of particular significance to those versed in the traditions of Old Testament, and Torah in particular.

Alpha and Omega = Aleph and Tav. the Aleph and Tav taken together form the word we would write in English transliteration “ET” and is an acronym for the whole Aleph-Bet. The Rabbis of the Torah regarded these letters of the Aleph -Bet as *the stuff of creation itself*. They thought of them in much the same way as we think of the periodic table of elements.

“Bereshit bara Elohim et hashamayim ve’et ha’arets.” “In a beginning, God created (the Aleph-Bet)...” It should be noted that the little word “ET” not only signifies the Aleph-Bet, but acts as a marker denoting *specificity.* Without it, the statement would be that God had created “stuff” without any definition. “Formless and void” would be one way to put it.

It is the addition of the “ET”, the language, that enables creation to have specificity. When we name things we not only identufy them, we empower (bless) them.

From the means to express the reality of creation, and the Creator comes the limitless possibilities of the universe we see, including the reality of a merciful Creator God, who gives Himself for the sake of His creation.

This whole concept puts the lie to the statement of Duckett, quoted by our dear brother kosta50, earlier in this thread:

“reality is voiceless and wordless, and the meaning of life isn’t located in language.”

As I responded at that time, “The reality you are looking for is that Spirit behind the word and the thing the word names. We Christians call it “Logos” and it is The Christ.

In The Logos, we have the name, the thing itself and that which causes the thing to be what it is.”

The Logos is manifest precisely at that point where, as you put it so well: “Both space and time are required for physical causation.”

Everything that is, requires the Logos to exist. Nothing that is can be without Him. And He has chosen to make Himself manifest first in the medium of ~language~.

Duckett and kosta may choose to live in a universe that is mute. The one I (we) live in is full of sound. that sound can be the cacophony of hell (left to our own limited intellect and devices) or it can be the true “Music of the Spheres”, a cosmic hymn to the Creator God and His Son, the Logos, through whom it all came into being and with whom it all makes sense.

In an instant.....


907 posted on 07/15/2010 11:56:46 AM PDT by shibumi ( "Tsuru no Sugomori")
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To: shibumi

Well put, INDEED.


924 posted on 07/15/2010 1:34:11 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: shibumi; xzins; kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop; TXnMA; D-fendr; annalex; count-your-change; ...
Thank you oh so very much for your outstanding essay-post, dear brother in Christ!

I cannot pick an excerpt from it to highlight because it should be read altogether. Beautiful!

But I do wish to underscore a point about Logos, the communication of a message and spiritual language.

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard. – Psalms 19:1-3

More specifically, we can see that physically – and spiritually – we "are" a message being communicated.

Physically, that message is our DNA, the information content that uniquely describes who we physically are. We are physically alive because that message, who we are, is being communicated throughout our physical bodies.

Likewise, spiritually, we are spiritually alive because His message of "Who He IS" is being communicated in our spirits. Or to put it another way, I am enlivened by His words. That is the “needful part” Mary found and Jesus promises will never be taken away.

Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.

But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.

And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her. – Luke 10:38-42

And again,

Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David. - Matthew 22:42

He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. - Matthew 16:15-18

Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. –I Corinthians 12:3

Jesus Christ, the Word of God, Logos, is life.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. – Colossians 3:3

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:9

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. – John 5:24

When we pray for our daily bread in the Lord’s Prayer (or Our Father if you prefer) we should remember that Jesus Christ is The Word of God, our nourishment.

But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. – Matt 4:4

Give us this day our daily bread. – Matt 6:11

I am that bread of life. – John 6:48

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. – 1 Cor 10:1-4

God's Name is I AM.

927 posted on 07/15/2010 1:36:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: shibumi; Alamo-Girl; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; kosta50
It should be noted that the little word “ET” not only signifies the Aleph-Bet, but acts as a marker denoting *specificity.* Without it, the statement would be that God had created “stuff” without any definition. “Formless and void” would be one way to put it.

It is the addition of the “ET” [i.e., the Aleph–Tav], in language, that enables creation to have specificity. When we name things we not only identify them, we empower (bless) them.

Thank you most gratefully from my heart for your perspicative illuminations of this point.

WRT the "blessing" aspect, formal science can be of no help whatsoever.

929 posted on 07/15/2010 1:55:47 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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