To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; P-Marlowe; marron; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee
I am humbled by your knowledge, Sister. It seems to me that there is no explanation that excludes ex nihilo. That creation and ex nihilo are in large part synonymous. I do like the idea that any change necessitates space, time, mass, etc.
My contention was that moral self-awareness that we see has to have a greater cause which would indicate that that greater cause is at a minimum a greater moral self-awareness. (Spirit)
God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. (Truth would parallel the “moral” dimension and Spirit the “self-awareness” aspect of my construct, feeble as it was.)
Therefore, Spirit (God) and Truth (a (the?) key attribute of God) is eternal. He is eternally “I Am”, Holy, and Glorious.
There is no argument against it, since to argue implies both morality and self-awareness.
Common sense tells us that these things do not randomly assemble themselves.
894 posted on
07/15/2010 10:25:08 AM PDT by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins; betty boop; P-Marlowe; marron; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee; GOPJ
Thank you oh so very much for your encouragement, dear brother in Christ!
My contention was that moral self-awareness that we see has to have a greater cause which would indicate that that greater cause is at a minimum a greater moral self-awareness. (Spirit)
Truly, you were speaking Spiritual Truth which those with spiritual discernment (ears to hear) can receive. I thank God for you.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. - I Cor 2:14
My humble submission was speaking to the natural man, i.e. why even the most prideful man dull of hearing, has no excuse for denying God IS.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20
God's Name is I AM.
To: xzins; Alamo-Girl; kosta50; P-Marlowe; marron; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee
Dear brother in Christ, thank you so very much for your well-reasoned, beautiful essay/post!
902 posted on
07/15/2010 10:54:03 AM PDT by
betty boop
(Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
To: xzins; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; P-Marlowe; marron; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee
It seems to me that there is no explanation that excludes ex nihilo You need to read more cutting-edge science then just cherry-picked semi-banal cosmological theories.
947 posted on
07/15/2010 4:11:47 PM PDT by
kosta50
(The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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