[Dr. Eckleburg]

You can dress it up any way you want, A-G, the Reformed believe man cannot resist God's will. So, man has "free will" only from his POV as Forest Keeper would say. But in reality what man does is exactly according to God's plan and will.

And FK would be correct. As Paul reminds us...

"For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive?" -- 1 Corinthians 4:7

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"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved." -- Ephesians 1:4-6

Either God is in control of His creation, by the very nature that God has revealed to us of Himself in Scripture for His own perfect purpose and glory, or there is no God and the Bible is all fiction and we are autonomous, free-willing atoms hurling through time and space with only our own thoughts to consume us.

It's one or the other.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

ping to 670. I’ve lost track of the conversation. (Does it show?)

8~)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so very much for sharing your insights and testimony, dear sister in Christ, and thank you for those beautiful Scriptures!

If man has no freedom of movement in Reformed theology, then it is very close to strong determinism with the apparent exception that it does not consider the mind, soul and spirit to be an illusion even though it would agree that none of those can cause anything to happen.

[kosta50]

And FK would be correct. As Paul reminds us...

I think you are missing the poing (again). Read #635.