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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; xzins; count-your-change; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; MarkBsnr
Physical blindness/deafness is not the issue here. There is no excuse/justification to reject God on such grounds. For the eyes and ears of the soul are still in full play — unless they are rejected as sources of Truth.

I wasn't talking about physical blindness, but spiritual.

To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been granted.  [Matthew 13:11]

Lack of spiritual eyes and ears is idetermined by God, accoridng to your scriptures. he is the one who withholds these gifts. Not only that, but those who are impoverished will become more impoverished and those who have in abundance shall have even more.

For whoever has, to him more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but whoever does not have, even what he has shall be taken away from him.  [Matthew 13:12]

This is all very gnostic. Your God determines who knows and who doesn't. It has nothing to do with your will. He makes sure of that.

Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. [Matthew 13:13] 


640 posted on 07/13/2010 5:36:46 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50
Jesus had just spoken to the gathered crowd about the different responses to his message. They were eager to hear but they were not disciples so he said he used illustrations.
To his disciples, who had shown faith in him, he had spoken plainly.
The point of the illustration was that those who accepted and responded to his word would have more while those who were hard hearted, indifferent, or let other cares overtake their earlier acceptance would lose even those few seeds that fell unpon their ground.

Jesus’ quote of Jer. 5:21 in vs. 13 says nothing about God preventing or taking away from anyone hearing or seeing, rather it is a statement of people's spiritual awareness.

Gnostic? Naw, Jesus explained his illustration in vss. 18-23. It really isn't all that difficult.

645 posted on 07/13/2010 6:28:31 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: kosta50; betty boop; xzins; count-your-change; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; MarkBsnr
Lack of spiritual eyes and ears is idetermined by God, accoridng to your scriptures. he is the one who withholds these gifts. Not only that, but those who are impoverished will become more impoverished and those who have in abundance shall have even more.

It seems to me you may be annoyed because you cannot command God to do your bidding.

[What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? - Romans 9:22-24

He IS God. You're not.

The earth [is] the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. - Psalms 24:1

Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? - Matthew 20:15

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. - Revelation 4:11

God's Name is I AM.

666 posted on 07/13/2010 10:11:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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