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To: Alamo-Girl; xzins; count-your-change; betty boop
To the contrary, the Creator matters not the creature

Apparently, your own scripture proves you wrong. "For [God] so loved the world..."

And man has no excuse for not acknowledging that God IS.

Sure he does. Your own scriptures say that only those who have been given the spiritual faculties can. It's not a matter of our will.

How irrational atheists are!

Yes, indeed, for not believing in talking donkeys, and tales of a fantastic world no one has witnessed except in a book.

As betty boop pointed out, the root of the word "rational" is "ratio" - the relation between two things. There must be the standard against which the other is compared for a ratio to exist.

I don't know where betty boop gets her credentials as an etymologist, but my Latin dictionary says ratio means "account, reckoning, invoice; plan; prudence; method; reasoning; rule; regard."

But by denying God, the atheist stands there alone fist raised in the air - meaningless, futile, irrelevant, irrational

As compared to a believer who is meaningful (?), useful (?), relevant (?), and of course rational because he or she believes in magic? Figures.

Talk about turning everything on its head...

The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God... - Psalms 14:1

Yet your own scripture says calling someone a fool puts you in danger of hell fire. Very consistent, and of course rational/s.

Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

I don't know I am still waiting for someone to answer me.

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

That's pathetic, laughing at little ants.

John was not like Peter who was not like James who was not like Thomas who was not like Paul, etc. Jesus could have chosen twelve Peters or twelve Johns. But He didn't

But he implored them to think like one...

548 posted on 07/12/2010 4:02:03 PM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; ...
and tales of
a fantastic world
no one
has witnessed
except in a book.

OBVIOUSLY
SOME FOLKS
ARE STILL
STUCK
IN
THE
BEGINNING
STAGE
--BOUND--
IN
PLATO'S
CAVE.
.
.
.

One might
encourage them
to get out more.
However, they have
thrown away the key
to the locks on their chains,
and snarl and bite anyone
trying to offer duplicate or
better keys.

SOME FOLKS
REFUSE
FREEDOM
AT
ALL
COSTS!

WHILE
insisting that there
is
REALLY
NO
freedom
--
YET BLAMING
EVERYONE ELSE
FOR THE
TRASHED KEYS.

556 posted on 07/12/2010 4:42:41 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: kosta50; Alamo-Girl; xzins; count-your-change
That's pathetic, laughing at little ants.

Why do you think you're an "ant???" I don't believe God regards you as such.

561 posted on 07/12/2010 5:19:05 PM PDT by betty boop (Those who do not punish bad men are really wishing that good men be injured. — Pythagoras)
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To: kosta50; xzins; count-your-change; betty boop; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; RnMomof7
me: And man has no excuse for not acknowledging that God IS.

you: Sure he does. Your own scriptures say that only those who have been given the spiritual faculties can. It's not a matter of our will.

Man has no excuse for not acknowledging that God IS.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20

He may have an excuse for not knowing Who God IS.

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes. – Romans 11:25-28

And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed [are] your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. – Matthew 13:14-16

However, simply knowing Who God IS will not do.

And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? - Acts 19:15

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. - James 2:19

The only way to know God is personally and that is all God's doing.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:12-13

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. - John 3:5-7

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. - John 15:4-5

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:9

God's Name is I AM.

600 posted on 07/13/2010 10:39:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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