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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr
"Put up your evidence, or we'll just consider it more RC fiction."

How much evidence do you need. There is no shortage of it for those who really want to know the truth. If you are a doubting Thomas and wish to place your fingers on something tangible there is a statue of one Mary Dyer who was hanged on Boston Common on June 1, 1660 for the crime of being a Quaker. The entire sordid story is detailed in: Mary Dyer of Rhode Island: The Quaker that was Hanged on Boston Common, June 1, 1660, Horatio Rogers, (New York: 1896)

I have a book with an excellent recitation of the brutalities practiced by the Puritans against all non-Puritans: The English in America - The Puritan Colonies, J. A. Doyle, M.A., Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford. Longmans, Green, and Co. London, 1887

"In Puritan Massachusetts several Quakers were hanged on Boston Common in October 1659. On the first day of June in 1660, Mary Dyer became a martyr for her Quaker faith as she swung from a gibbet on the green fields of Boston Common. Other Quakers were fined, banished, imprisoned or tortured. Catholic priests were forbidden to enter Massachusetts on pain of death." Religious violence - American Style By Albert J. Menendez

The first Friends to visit American were Mary Fisher and Anne Austin, who arrived in Massachusetts in 1656. They were sent away by the magistrates, but others arrived after them. In 1659 William Robinson and Marmaduke Stephenson were hanged on Boston Common, as was Mary Dyer the following year. - History of the Society of Friends in America in American Church History Series (New York, 1894)

" In and around Salem, Massachusetts the Quakers are harassed, beaten, deported, and sometimes even hanged for what they believe." - The Persecution of Quakers: Quakers Arrested in Salem, Mary Trotter Kion

It is no coincidence that the only instance of official martyrdom (the execution of four Quaker missionaries in Massachusetts in the 1650s) occurred in a colony that boasted both a strong established church and a powerful magistracy." - What’s "Sacred" a.bout Violence in Early America? Susan Juster

If you need more I can bury you in proof.

385 posted on 07/09/2010 6:21:35 PM PDT by Natural Law (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Natural Law
If you need more I can bury you in proof.

Calvinists have no more interest in historical truth than they do in Christian truth. Much less their proofs.

388 posted on 07/09/2010 6:41:05 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Natural Law; MarkBsnr
J.A. Doyle

Let's see who this Doyle fellow was. He was an unmarried Englishman who lived 150 years ago who wrote about American history. Wonder if his crusty English perspective was perhaps a little "skewed" against those rebellious Colonies?

Also, the three Quakers were charged with heresy. For a little perspective, let's see what early Quakers really believed...

BELIEFS OF THE QUAKERS

"Some, but not all Quakers, view the doctrine of Jesus' and the virgin birth as nonessential and not accepted as fact...

Acceptance of any document as valid for doctrine, i.e. Tao Te Ching, Koran, etc. (Society of Friends)..."

Sounds like heresy to me.

But I do appreciate these many opportunities to learn the truth, to put history into perspective, to understand what went on in the past and what is going on in the present. Roman Catholic errors provide a wealth of riches to learn by default.

412 posted on 07/10/2010 1:00:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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