With all due respect, how the heck would you or anyone know if anyone was citing the exact Catechism and meaning or simply making it up as they went along without any actual or formal education on the subject?
It seems to me your "objective" brown hankie standard is whether or not what you are being told conforms to your preexisting notions and prejudices.
I never thought it would be delightful
to see how
UNMITIGATEDLY WRONG
some folks chronically are.