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To: annalex; TSgt; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; the_conscience; ...
Mark 5:36 ("Be not afraid; only believe.")

The believe here is that Christ can heal the daughter of Jairus despite her apparent death. Note that this is a good prooftext for the intercession of the saints as well as for veneration of relics. But it does not prove Faith Alone.

I hope you won't mind me flagging a few saints to your completely preposterous remark. It's almost as ripe as your comment that you long for the days of the Inquisition to return.

First of all you are confusing two verses. I assume the "relic" you're putting your faith into refers to Christ's garment that the woman had just touched in hopes of being healed. But note that even here, it is her faith which saved her...

"Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole" -- Mark 5:34

Regarding the later verses, Christ is not talking about intercession or relics or dental x-rays. He's telling a man how to pray, and how to live.

Fearlessly, by the faith of Christ alone.

It's pretty sad that you look to worldly "relics" even as Jesus Christ is standing right there in the flesh performing miracles.

All idolatry is the same; it robs God of His glory and invests that glory into a material thing which can be traded and bartered and bought.

This is Rome. A merchant whose scale is faulty.

1,457 posted on 07/21/2010 9:46:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; TSgt; RnMomof7; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; wmfights; Forest Keeper; the_conscience
you long for the days of the Inquisition to return

The Holy Inquisition has not been abolished, thanks be to God, but of course it is long past overdue in America, given the state of our clergy.

I assume the "relic" you're putting your faith into refers to Christ's garment that the woman had just touched in hopes of being healed. But note that even here, it is her faith which saved her.

Correct, and indeed, like any veneration of relics, that act was driven by faith in Jesus Christ. However, Jesus did not say that faith alone saved the woman, -- rather, her faith based on which she venerated His garment. Faith was what we do, not what we think. Such faith indeed saves.

Christ is not talking about intercession [...] He's telling a man how to pray, and how to live

Absolutely. The intercession is simply what happened: one man praying to Christ for another's benefit. And we should live by faith as we strive for fortitude. Mark 5:36 is a wonderful, succint, verse. All virtues start with simple faith. That is Catholic teaching. Compare Hebrews 11. "By faith Abel offered to God a sacrifice ...".

1,599 posted on 07/22/2010 7:02:18 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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