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To: the_conscience; Forest Keeper; small voice in the wilderness; wmfights; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; jla
one of the great ideals of the United States, is that of personal responsibility

Of course. It was a Catholic ideal before there was a United States. Catholicism is all about free will, good works, and doing penance for bad ones, for starters. You don't rattle off a profession of faith and consider yourself "saved".

119 posted on 07/06/2010 7:27:56 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; the_conscience; Forest Keeper; small voice in the wilderness; wmfights; Quix; jla; ...
You don't rattle off a profession of faith and consider yourself "saved".

lol. Darn tootin! You gotta work for it.

Never mind that contradicts the word of God.

"The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." -- Romans 10:8-9

Was Paul preaching another Gospel? Was Paul wrong? Because he didn't qualify that statement. Nor did Christ.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

God willing, Roman Catholics will read the Bible and realize that a needlessly complicated, arrogantly corrupt bureaucracy is leading them away from Christ.

120 posted on 07/06/2010 8:03:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: annalex; the_conscience; Forest Keeper; small voice in the wilderness; wmfights; Quix; ...

“You don’t rattle off a profession of faith and consider yourself “saved”.”

How does one know when one has done enough to be saved?


121 posted on 07/06/2010 8:11:29 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
Of course. It was a Catholic ideal before there was a United States. Catholicism is all about free will, good works, and doing penance for bad ones, for starters.

The constitution was written by Calvinists for the most part ..it reflects the understanding of the depravity of men ..that is why we have checks and balances ..

123 posted on 07/06/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; small voice in the wilderness; wmfights; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; jla
It was a Catholic ideal before there was a United States.

I see. It's the dern Protestants fault that Romanists don't take personal responsibility for the lack of responsibility of their Bishops. With all that free will and good works one would think that those Protestants would be such a dern nuisance.

128 posted on 07/06/2010 8:35:31 PM PDT by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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