Well, that's the logical conclusion from your unscriptural claim that God did not plan for Adam to sin. What else was he doing?!? If God did not plan for Adam to sin, as you claim, and then Adam sinned, that was an unplanned surprise, wasn't it?
Maybe that's a deception of your perception
Unless you can demonstrate that you see the earth's curvature with you naked eye or the makeup of your tongue on a molecular level, the world as we see it from our observer position is a deception for you and me both. It's just that some of us realize it, while others don't.
If all your perceptions are deception, how would you know?
All human perceptions are deception from man's observer position. We can't see the curvature of the earth so from our POV we it's flat. You do too—if you are human. :)
Being Almighty means being All mighty
Okay, and your point is?
It was a choice presented to them and I cited it as such
It was a warning and a threat for them to get in step with his will. If I agree to something while my arm is being twisted that is hardly a free-will decision on my part
Their will is an illusion but so long as it's the same as His, no problem
Human will must be in harmony with God's will, lest you sin. So, the bottom line is: it's "not as I will, but as [God] will[s]."
That's one of those untrustworthy perceptions. isn't it? Or is it the Inner Freud?
Yes. No.
In other words there's no support for what you say except what you call a “logical conclusion”. Whose logic? Yours?You've already said perceptions were deceptive.
And why would anything “surprise” the Almighty? If a real choice was offered to Adam then there would be a possibility of either course of action being chosen.
Adam made a choice and suffered the consequences.
“Unless you can demonstrate that you see the earth's curvature with you naked eye or the makeup of your tongue on a molecular level, the world as we see it from our observer position is a deception for you and me both. It's just that some of us realize it, while others don't.”
There's no requirement upon me to demonstrate anything of the sort. It is you who have asserted perceptions are deception and free will is a deceptive illusion. So assertion is about it.
But I can see the curvature of the earth from a plane and seeing anything on the molecular level probably can't be done.
It was a choice presented to them and I cited it as such
“It was a warning and a threat for them to get in step with his will. If I agree to something while my arm is being twisted that is hardly a free-will decision on my part”
Really depends on the view point of the person, doesn't it?
They all agreed since along with the malediction on the one hand there was blessing on the other. So arm twisting or hand shake really depends on the viewpoint of those involved.
That's how life is. Come in and get warm or stand outside in the snow and freeze to death, eat or starve to death, choose not to rob banks or go to jail, and on and on.
Such a lot of arm twisting!!!
“Human will must be in harmony with God's will, lest you sin. So, the bottom line is: it's “not as I will, but as [God] will[s].”
And if that human will is a deception as you've said it is??
That bottom line was Christ's submission of his will to his father's.