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To: annalex; HarleyD
Ordaining something is not the same as doing something.

Rewriting the langauage again?

ORDAIN:

To order by virtue of superior authority; decree or enact.

To prearrange unalterably; predestine,


1,128 posted on 07/17/2010 11:38:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD

And? There is still the ordainer and the doer.


1,137 posted on 07/18/2010 7:42:09 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD
I do not disagree that the word "ordain" has the connotation of order from high authority or even can be seen as not merely commanding but enacting that which is commanded. Nor do I disagree that God, should He wish, could override anyone's will.

Perhaps for that reason, in Ephesians 2:10, in order to avoid any misunderstanding regarding free will, God did not dictate that verb to St. Paul, but rather used very simple, "had prepared":

αυτου γαρ εσμεν ποιημα κτισθεντες εν χριστω ιησου επι εργοις αγαθοις οις προητοιμασεν ο θεος ινα εν αυτοις περιπατησωμεν

This is the Liddell-Scott entry for the verb: ἑτοιμ-άζω

You are probably using those Protestant translations whose only purpose is to lie to the people about the Gospel. This is a bad habit, especially if you are going to argue from these mistranslations.

1,165 posted on 07/18/2010 6:20:51 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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