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To: TaraP
Hi Tara...is it Tair-uh or Tar-uh?? Just wondering..

However Jesus was not fully human...

According to Christian doctrine (and creeds) Jesus is 100% man and 100% God. This is called the hypostatic union. I think wiki has something on that. So, he would be a human sacrifice and I suppose technically a god sacrifice.

G-D would of never had a *Full Human Being* to be sacraficed for other’s sins...

Thats right! Thats is what G-d meant when He said....Do not offer the Eternal your G-d: for every abomination to the Eternal, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.

So dont offer me human sacrifice like those other people...I HATE IT!

What is *Blood* it is the *life* for human exsistence that is why Blood was needed in this *Gift Sacrafice*

The problem is that A) blood is not *required* for a sin scarifice. And B) Jesus died by suffocation not blood loss and his blood was not sprinkled on the alter. (not that it is allowed anyway) Lev 5:11

11 " 'If, however, he cannot afford two doves or two young pigeons, he is to bring as an offering for his sin a tenth of an ephah [a] of fine flour for a sin offering. He must not put oil or incense on it, because it is a sin offering. 12 He is to bring it to the priest, who shall take a handful of it as a memorial portion and burn it on the altar on top of the offerings made to the LORD by fire. It is a sin offering. 13 In this way the priest will make atonement for him for any of these sins he has committed, and he will be forgiven. The rest of the offering will belong to the priest, as in the case of the grain offering.' "

The bone passage in Psalms is not a messianic passage. And the look at him who they have pierced is (per the Jewish view) an event that has not happened yet. Zechariah 12:9

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto Me (G-d) because they have thrust him through; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.

11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart: the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

As you can see from verse 9, this is end times stuff. Hasnt happened yet. Verse 10, they (the people of Jerusalem) shall turn to G-d, because this "person" is thrust through, killed and the Jerusalemites will mourn as if their own child were killed. Verse 11, they shall mourn as Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. What happened in the valley of Megiddon? If you look it up, a Great General was killed in battle and placed upon his chariot and brought back. He was much beloved and the people were in mourning over this loss.

So, in the end of days, which we are in, the great war to take Jerusalem away from the Jews will occur. And someone, maybe a great general in the IDF, will be killed and the people will turn to G-d because of it...and mourn greatly for him.

534 posted on 07/06/2010 5:18:17 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: blasater1960

LOL..TAR RAH!

Uh..Where to start...First has any fully human being died and found to be physically resurrected?

What do we know about the *Super-natural world*? I would say very little..We are human beings with 5 senses, well some say the have 6, anyway’s do Angels die? The first humans Adam had no human father but he physically died and stayed that way.... So how can you say Jesus was a human sacrafice if he is not buried somewhere? (ashes to ashes, dust to dust) *Blood* is the LIFE force for a human being, like Oil and Water is earths life force..Jesus said *I am the way, the truth and the *Life* (Blood) no one comes to the Father but by me*

PASSOVER: Jesus said this is my body and my blood for the forgiveness of sin..A GIFT)

End Time here is *prophetic* as to Messiah Jesus Christ.
9 “It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced (JESUS CHRIST).

Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. 11 “In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. Zechariah 12:9-14

Who do you think it is speaking of?


536 posted on 07/06/2010 5:42:20 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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