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To: Stingray
In other words, the picture you provided shows the remaining part of the western wall that essentially formed the foundation of the wall. The rest of it, as Josephus recorded, was "so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it had ever been inhabited."

Yet there they remain. One stone upon another, 7 courses high. No one disputes that these are Herodian stone.

Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Considering their precious worth to the Jews, and the spirit of those who hate them, those stones may be torn down, even yet.

This, of course, represents nothing more than your opinion with no scholarship to support it.

As does yours.

Except that - as noted - each of the gospel writers is recounting their version of the Olivet Discourse in the language, idioms, and images their primary readers will understand. They are not writing about different events, they are writing about the same event through the lenses of their own understanding of it and communicating that to their respective readers.

Or, as I noted, each should be gleaned separately for their treasures of prophecy. There is a reason for the differences. We will have to disagree about what that reason is.

The article in question is merely trying to get people - like you - to understand that Christ spent most of Matthew 24 talking about the destruction of the Temple!

Or he talked about the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in Matt 24, and Matt 21:19-22, and Matt 34 is not a reiteration... but another thing all together. And those stones, still standing one upon another, seven courses high, seem to tell the tale.

these were merely representative of the information found, for instance, in Foxe's Book of Martyrs (as one source).

I am quite familiar with Foxe's Book of Martyrs... But the persecution of Christ's own barely began by AD 70... There is a whole description of a time when Christ's own (and the Jews) were persecuted wholesale in a manner several orders of magnitude higher... Just turn a wee bit further back in the book. Not to discount the time from 32AD to 70 AD, but that was just a pittance in the pot.

As to the rest of your "critique", I will address it at some other point in the future. I'm not interested in discussing this further with people whose minds are already made up.

Which explains the brevity of my reply. From your tenor, it seems there is little profit in investing the time...

452 posted on 07/05/2010 12:52:45 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: roamer_1

“Yet there they remain. One stone upon another, 7 courses high. No one disputes that these are Herodian stone.”

You can ignore Josephus’ words - who was an eyewitness to these events - at the risk of your own credibility. I’ll choose to believe what he says about it.

“But the persecution of Christ’s own barely began by AD 70”

Categorically untrue. Go back and read Foxe’s past the first chapter

“Which explains the brevity of my reply. From your tenor, it seems there is little profit in investing the time...”

Ditto.


455 posted on 07/05/2010 1:08:24 AM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: roamer_1

I do not believe the

Western wall/wailing wall

can be considered PART of THE TEMPLE.

It is the remaining part of THE RETAINING WALL OF THE PLATFORM OF THE TEMPLE COMPLEX.

The TEMPLE was quite distinct from the platform it stood on.


466 posted on 07/05/2010 7:40:18 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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