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To: Quix
"Now we beseech you, brethen, by the coming of our lord Jesus Christ, and by our gatheirng together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things

And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time, for the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, UNTIL HE BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY.

And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming."(2 Thess.2:1-8).

Who is the HE Paul is talking about? This hinderer of lawlessness? It could only be one of three things;

1.Government-but that doesn't work because Antichrist reigns over many kingdoms

2. the Holy Spirit? No. He will be here all through the tribulation and forever.

3. the Church? This has be it. It will be raptured before Antichrist comes and this is the only one of the hinderers of lawlessness that will be removed from earth. Raptured. The "HE" refers to The Church the Body of Christ, The One New Man.

The Antichrist cannot be revealed, and thus the tribulation, until the Church the Body of Christ is caught up to meet the Lord in the air, and thus shall we be ever with the Lord.

257 posted on 07/03/2010 10:53:34 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Defending the Indefensible. The Pride of a Pawn.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Sounds like the Preterists/REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

have the . . . temerity . . . to think that their rantings are worthy a response that fits

THEIR !DEMANDS!

LOL.


261 posted on 07/03/2010 11:11:18 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
the Holy Spirit? No. He will be here all through the tribulation and forever

Good luck proving that one - unless, of course, when you refer to "The Tribulation" you are refering to a indefinite period of time where the Saints of God are weathering along until the Parousia

I would think that you would have some violence against the doctrine of the Trinity by keeping the Paraclete on earth among the reprobate while the alleged wedding feast is in heaven.

275 posted on 07/03/2010 11:34:25 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: small voice in the wilderness

YES, HIS Church, His Body of Believers, His Children who are expecting Him will be taken up to be with Him during the Tribulation when His Wrath is poured out on the world. For those who didn’t want HIS love, will have a hate filled world, those who didn’t want Truth, will live with Lies/deception.

The Bridegroom comes for His Bride to take us to His Father’s House - just as He promised. As a Jewish wedding lasted for seven days, our wedding feast will last for seven years.

What a blessing it is to KNOW Him personally because of what Our Savior did at The Cross. What a blessing it is to know HIS TRUTH. And all His promises are YES and AMEN.


280 posted on 07/03/2010 11:37:28 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
the Church? This has be it. It will be raptured before Antichrist comes and this is the only one of the hinderers of lawlessness that will be removed from earth

Typical Dispy hermeneutic. Since when has the "bride" of Christ been referred to as a "he"? (the Greek itself is in the neuter gender when its used in v6)

For what its worth, the traditional understanding (that is, for the past two thousand years) is that this is likely a civil government or restraint. Indeed, the primitive Christians believed that this "restraint" was the Roman Empire and by which they prayed for its peace and welfare, as knowing when the Roman Empire were to be disolved and fall into pieces, the empire of the man of sin would be raised upon its ruins.

The normal Dispy rebuttal is based on the bias that "the man of sin" can only be a singular person. This is based on mishandling the Scriptures and ignoring, not only the historical evidence, but the language of the text itself which naturally leads one to understand "man of sin" as being a sucession of men holding the antichrist demeanor. Think of this as the spiritual equivalent of Ground Hog Day, where Satan keeps playing different strategies with different leaders until he achieves the pinnacle of his wickedness as typed in the Days of Noah. Since it doesn't fit the Dispensational template, then the normal hermeneutic is chucked for the much cooler imposition of a Hollywood master bad guy taking the scene.

285 posted on 07/03/2010 11:54:23 PM PDT by The Theophilus
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