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To: fish hawk
True, you MUST believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that he died for your sins.

True and correct again, but the next part, well...Do you think if I were to sit at my place and ponder and think and surmise on a very difficult problem in math, medicine, business or science that the product of my mind - solution, remedy, product, invention - didn't come from work?

People make millions at this kind of work. So thinking, having faith, believing all these things are by definition work. The product of which is works.

The LDS believe in additional levels of heaven or Degrees of Glory. There is slight mention in the NT & OT, but little else. It is new information.

If they are right then there is more to salvation (the lowest heaven) than just believing Christ is our Savior.

That God judges actions as well as beliefs fits the OT & NT to a T.

525 posted on 07/03/2010 10:08:28 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
Are you Catholic I surmise from your questions and defense of “works”? I am not saying works are bad, no doubt they are good. My main point is that so many out there think that doing a good (human) thing is getting them points with God toward salvation. If that were true, God would not have sent his Son to die for us. The Bible teaches us that ANY works that you do before you are saved by grace through faith, is as filthy rags. The only “works” that save anyone is the works of Christ when He shed His blood on that tree, which, by the way, had mine and your sins nailed to it. Sin is no longer in the equation.(Christ died for every sin that ever took place and that ever will take place, by a believer or a non believer.
527 posted on 07/03/2010 11:09:49 AM PDT by fish hawk (Hussein Obama: Golf/Gulf, not very good at either.)
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To: 1010RD; Godzilla; caww; svcw

It amazes me how easily you lie and twist things. It really does.


554 posted on 07/04/2010 10:32:00 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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