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To: reaganaut; restornu
The LDS claim they are saved by grace “AFTER ALL THEY CAN DO”.

Isn't that true of anyone? If I am as perfect as I can be I still will never make it into Heaven on my own. No one is perfect, just Jesus Christ.

At the very least I have to accept him as my personal Savior. How do I do that and then do nothing. The whole works/grace argument is ridiculous.

Accepting Jesus' Grace leads to works - good works. How could it be otherwise?

252 posted on 06/29/2010 11:08:46 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

The LDS claim they are saved by grace “AFTER ALL THEY CAN DO”.

Isn’t that true of anyone? If I am as perfect as I can be I still will never make it into Heaven on my own. No one is perfect, just Jesus Christ.

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AT THE VERY LEAST! YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW INSULTING THAT IS TO CHRIST, DO YOU??!?!?!?!?!? It is not ‘the very least’ it is ALL we can do. To say otherwise is to say Christ’s sacrifice wasn’t enough and we have to do ‘more’ to be saved. That is disgusting.

At the very least I have to accept him as my personal Savior. How do I do that and then do nothing. The whole works/grace argument is ridiculous.

Accepting Jesus’ Grace leads to works - good works. How could it be otherwise?

Christians recognize that they can DO NOTHING. You apparently don’t get that either.

Pity, Hell is a very hot place and that is where you are headed.


261 posted on 06/29/2010 11:16:34 PM PDT by reaganaut (The LDS church doesn't PRAY FOR the weak, they PREY ON them.)
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To: 1010RD
At the very least I have to accept him as my personal Savior.

Well actually it's the most you can do. Without Him any works we do is as "filthy rags" is His sight. But if one is a Christian and 'follows' Christ certain attributes, behavior, and actions become apparent as He lives His life thru us...as we're conformed to His image. This happens because of the relationship we share with Him. How we view life, how we determine our life filters thru Him. The natural outcome is that our life then reflects His goodness...NOT our works.

276 posted on 06/30/2010 12:08:07 AM PDT by caww
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To: 1010RD
At the very least I have to accept him as my personal Savior. How do I do that and then do nothing. The whole works/grace argument is ridiculous.

I used to have the same confusion as you. But now I'm saved. I don't think the unsaved can ever understand.

326 posted on 06/30/2010 9:26:48 AM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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