[boatbums]

We believe the Church as the mother of our new birth

Okay...how can the "Church" be our "mother" when the church is us???

[metmom]

Okay...how can the "Church" be our "mother" when the church is us???

Only for those who don't get it and think that salvation comes through the church.

[Titanites]

Okay...how can the "Church" be our "mother" when the church is us???

The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth, and she can be our mother in the sense that she teaches that truth and nurtures our understanding.

[RnMomof7]

Okay...how can the "Church" be our "mother" when the church is us???

They have a convoluted salvation.. they have a corporate salvation where one is saved by the church ROME, as opposed to the saved making up the church .When one is taught that then the church is ROME and one belongs to the church..One is not the church , then the church in effect is God ..

Look at the definition ..it is not Christ that saves you..it is the church and her traditions and her sacraments ...