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To: Iscool
There wasn't a born again Christian in the entire bunch

So you leave out that part of the Lord's prayer?

Salvation by Grace thru faith without works was revealed

We know that's your interpretation of Scripture. That's what's under discussion.

877 posted on 06/21/2010 7:59:27 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Salvation by Grace thru faith without works was revealed

We know that's your interpretation of Scripture. That's what's under discussion.

That's what your religion teaches you, that we put our own spin on the scripture but any Lurkers out there with a 6th grade education on up can easily read the scriptures and and see that your religion has duped them out of their salvation...

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Salvation by grace thru faith was kept locked up while Israel was under the Law...

Eph 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
Eph 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Now it could be that you just don't understand that...Don't get it...Before I was saved, I would never have 'gotten it'...

There's a number of reasons why people would not get this information and have to invent something that was more to their liking and understanding...The scripture tells us:

2Co 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

And then Israel has been blinded, not by the God of this world but by the God of creation:

2Co 3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
2Co 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

Oh, the riches you guys are missing out on by ignoring the epistles...I pray that you will allow God to open your eyes to the scriptures...

918 posted on 06/21/2010 1:11:59 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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