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To: Quix; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla

I don’t see any contradiction with the Catholic teaching that we are saved by grace alone through faith and conditional on our good works done out of love. Works done out of obligation of the law or for an ulterior motive do not save.


713 posted on 06/19/2010 10:31:49 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
Welllll, I can appreciate the fact that you 'don't see. . . '

Many Proddys realize that seemingly most Roman Catholics et al and certainly all the members of the variouis rabic RC cliques have great difficulty seeing accurately Scripture, history, dictionaries etc. However, to . . . uhhh . . . try once again with feeling . . .

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Does NOT SAY: 'for by the works of the law DONE WITH THE WRONG MOTIVE, shall nof flesh be justified.'

Galatians 3
1O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?

2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

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Does NOT SAY: '3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh DONE WITH THE RIGHT MOTIVE?'

Galatians 3
Trust in Christ, Not the Law
1 You crazy Galatians! Did someone put a hex on you? Have you taken leave of your senses? Something crazy has happened, for it's obvious that you no longer have the crucified Jesus in clear focus in your lives. His sacrifice on the cross was certainly set before you clearly enough.
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2-4Let me put this question to you: How did your new life begin? Was it by working your heads off to please God? Or was it by responding to God's Message to you? Are you going to continue this craziness? For only crazy people would think they could complete by their own efforts what was begun by God. If you weren't smart enough or strong enough to begin it, how do you suppose you could perfect it? Did you go through this whole painful learning process for nothing? It is not yet a total loss, but it certainly will be if you keep this up!

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Does NOT SAY: Galatians 3
Trust in Christ, Not the Law
1 You crazy Galatians! Did someone put a hex on you? Have you taken leave of your senses? Something crazy has happened, for it's obvious that you no longer have the crucified Jesus in clear focus in your lives. His sacrifice on the cross was certainly set before you clearly enough.
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2-4Let me put this question to you: How did your new life begin? Was it by working your heads off to please God WITH WHITE HANKY MOTIVES? Or was it by responding to God's Message to you? Are you going to continue this craziness? For only crazy people would think they could complete by their own efforts WHITE-WASHED IN WHITE HANKY MOTIVES, what was begun by God. If you weren't smart enough or strong enough to begin it, how do you suppose you could perfect it--EVEN WITH THE WHITE-WASH OF WHITE-HANKY MOTIVES? Did you go through this whole painful learning process for nothing? It is not yet a total loss, but it certainly will be if you keep this up!

Galatians 3:1-3 (Amplified Bible)

Galatians 3
1O YOU poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom--right before your very eyes--Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openly and graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?
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2Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the [Holy] Spirit as the result of obeying the Law and doing its works, or was it by hearing [the message of the Gospel] and believing [it]? [Was it from observing a law of rituals or from a message of faith?]
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3Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh?

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Did NOT SAY:
Galatians 3:1-3 (Amplified Bible)

Galatians 3
1O YOU poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom--right before your very eyes--Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openly and graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?
.
2Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the [Holy] Spirit as the result of obeying the Law WITH THE WHITE-WASH OF WHITE HANKY MOTIVES and doing its works WITH THE WHITE-WASH OF WHITE HANKY MOTIVES, or was it by hearing [the message of the Gospel] and believing [it]? [Was it from observing a law of rituals WITH THE WHITE-WASH OF WHITE HANKY MOTIVES or from a message of faith?]
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3Are you so foolish and so senseless and so silly? Having begun [your new life spiritually] with the [Holy] Spirit, are you now reaching perfection [by dependence] on the flesh

What an OUTRAGEOUS INSULT TO THE BLOOD OF JESUS THE CHRIST!

OF COURSE, Biblical, right-heart-motivated-good-works DO FOLLOW AUTHENTIC EARNEST RELATIONSHIPS WITH JESUS WALKING IN HIS SPIRIT. HOWEVER, good works are NOT

ANY

PART OF THE SOURCE of Salvation in Christ. Else Christ needn't have bothered.

716 posted on 06/19/2010 11:02:39 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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