Interesting question. The "church" is the spiritual body of Christ, and because of that, it IS a church of saints since we are sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ. The "Church", I assume by that you mean the Roman Catholic Church, IS an assembly of both saints and sinners and so is every other organized Christian assembly. There is a distinction, then.
All should be welcomed into the faith, but people who continue in their sinful behaviors after joining and do so openly bring shame upon the others. This person should be confronted and lovingly shown the errors of his/her ways. As Jesus told the woman, "Go and sin no more.". A person who feels no moral conviction for sin nor an earnest, heart-felt desire to change, should be considered as not genuine and Scripture tells us should be expelled from the assembly. This action is intended to cause remorse and repentance and, hopefully, reconciliation. This, I believe, is the purpose of "excommunication" in your church.
So The Comedian's comments about Pelosi, Kerry, and Kennedy (moot point there, I know) was that their assembly took no such action and because of that neglect, other members could and do think the moral teachings of the church are optional. Does this explain better?
He didn't say that. That verse is known as Pericope Adulterae. It does not exist in odler verisons of John. It's a latter-day addition. Read up on it. You are quoting something Jesus never said.
Interesting question. The "church" is the spiritual body of Christ, and because of that, it IS a church of saints since we are sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ. The "Church", I assume by that you mean the Roman Catholic Church, IS an assembly of both saints and sinners and so is every other organized Christian assembly. There is a distinction, then.
Romans 3: 21 6 But now 7 the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, though testified to by the law and the prophets, 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction; 23 all have sinned and are deprived of the glory of God. 24 They are justified freely by his grace through the redemption in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as an expiation, 8 through faith, by his blood, to prove his righteousness because of the forgiveness of sins previously committed, 26 through the forbearance of God--to prove his righteousness in the present time, that he might be righteous and justify the one who has faith in Jesus.
There are some important points in Paul's statements here.
1. All have sinned and ARE deprived of the Glory of God.
This is present tense. If you are sanctified, then you are not a sinner and are not deprived of the Glory of God. But Paul says all, and he means all. You, me, and every last human being on Earth.
2. Sins previously committed.
You are not forgiven sins that you have yet to commit. The justification through faith is now, but your future justification and future sinning and future forgiveness (or not), is in the future. This is the meaning of the perseverance of the saints. It is as the example of the labourers:
Matthew 20: 1 1 "The kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out at dawn to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2 After agreeing with them for the usual daily wage, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 Going out about nine o'clock, he saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 2 and he said to them, 'You too go into my vineyard, and I will give you what is just.' 5 So they went off. (And) he went out again around noon, and around three o'clock, and did likewise. 6 Going out about five o'clock, he found others standing around, and said to them, 'Why do you stand here idle all day?' 7 They answered, 'Because no one has hired us.' He said to them, 'You too go into my vineyard.' 8 3 When it was evening the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Summon the laborers and give them their pay, beginning with the last and ending with the first.' 9 When those who had started about five o'clock came, each received the usual daily wage. 10 So when the first came, they thought that they would receive more, but each of them also got the usual wage. 11 And on receiving it they grumbled against the landowner, 12 saying, 'These last ones worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us, who bore the day's burden and the heat.' 13 He said to one of them in reply, 'My friend, I am not cheating you. 4 Did you not agree with me for the usual daily wage? 14 5 Take what is yours and go. What if I wish to give this last one the same as you? 15 (Or) am I not free to do as I wish with my own money? Are you envious because I am generous?' 16 6 Thus, the last will be first, and the first will be last." 17
The wage is the salvation of God; there are some that walk in His ways all the days of their lives, there are some that come to Him in the end; the final reward is the same. You talk about casting out - something that should be reserved only as a last resort. What did Jesus do?
Mark 2: 15 While he was at table in his house, 9 many tax collectors and sinners sat with Jesus and his disciples; for there were many who followed him. 16 10 Some scribes who were Pharisees saw that he was eating with sinners and tax collectors and said to his disciples, "Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?" 17 Jesus heard this and said to them (that), "Those who are well do not need a physician, 11 but the sick do. I did not come to call the righteous but sinners."
The Church is a hospital for the sick.
Luke 15: 1 1 The tax collectors and sinners were all drawing near to listen to him, 2 but the Pharisees and scribes began to complain, saying, "This man welcomes sinners and eats with them." 3 So to them he addressed this parable. 4 "What man among you having a hundred sheep and losing one of them would not leave the ninety-nine in the desert and go after the lost one until he finds it? 5 And when he does find it, he sets it on his shoulders with great joy 6 and, upon his arrival home, he calls together his friends and neighbors and says to them, 'Rejoice with me because I have found my lost sheep.' 7 I tell you, in just the same way there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need of repentance.
The Church is called to minister to the sinners. And just who are the sinners?
Luke 19: 1 1 He came to Jericho and intended to pass through the town. 2 Now a man there named Zacchaeus, who was a chief tax collector and also a wealthy man, 3 was seeking to see who Jesus was; but he could not see him because of the crowd, for he was short in stature. 4 So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore tree in order to see Jesus, who was about to pass that way. 5 When he reached the place, Jesus looked up and said to him, "Zacchaeus, come down quickly, for today I must stay at your house." 6 And he came down quickly and received him with joy. 7 When they all saw this, they began to grumble, saying, "He has gone to stay at the house of a sinner." 8 But Zacchaeus stood there and said to the Lord, "Behold, half of my possessions, Lord, I shall give to the poor, and if I have extorted anything from anyone I shall repay it four times over." 9 2 And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house because this man too is a descendant of Abraham. 10 3 For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save what was lost."
We are all sinners and Jesus has come to save all of us lost people.
Luke 9: 51 23 24 25 When the days for his being taken up were fulfilled, he resolutely determined to journey to Jerusalem, 52 26 and he sent messengers ahead of him. On the way they entered a Samaritan village to prepare for his reception there, 53 but they would not welcome him because the destination of his journey was Jerusalem. 54 When the disciples James and John saw this they asked, "Lord, do you want us to call down fire from heaven to consume them?" 55 Jesus turned and rebuked them, 56 and they journeyed to another village.
Jesus rebuked them because they wanted to punish the wicked in this Samaritan village who rejected Him.
So The Comedian's comments about Pelosi, Kerry, and Kennedy (moot point there, I know) was that their assembly took no such action and because of that neglect, other members could and do think the moral teachings of the church are optional. Does this explain better?
How do you know what actions were and are being taken? The teachings of the Church are clear. If we throw out Pelosi, for instance because of her public sinning and exhortation and incentive to sin, where do we stop? Since there is no human being on earth, not one, that is without sin, there'd be nobody left in the Church, would there?
You have said that you are sanctified. How can you be sanctified if you are in sin? Nothing unclean can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. If you are in sin, then you are unclean. If you are not in sin, then you must either already be in Heaven, or else God Himself.