This is some one elses work,not just quotes you should give the URL.
What we do see francis is there was not agreement by all the men the RC call church fathers..so we have to ask ourselves..which men were right..does the church rest on tradition that is EXTRA biblical or does it rest on the words of scripture confirming the tradition
Here is another quote from
Athanasius ..which seems to support the need for scriptures to verify tradition
“Vainly then do they run about with the pretext that they have demanded Councils for the faith’s sake; for divine Scripture is sufficient above all things; but if a Council be needed on the point, there are the proceedings of the Fathers, for the Nicene Bishops did not neglect this matter, but stated the doctrines so exactly, that persons reading their words honestly, cannot but be reminded by them of the religion towards Christ announced in divine Scripture” (De Synodis, 6)
Even if nobody had advocated sola scriptura before the Reformation, the truth would remain the truth. The scriptures are the only apostolic material we have today. As such, they’re the voice of the apostles, and they speak louder than all other traditions.
Here is writings where Blessed Irenaues gives credit to those who followed Tradition without reading Scripture....
“To which course many nations of those barbarians who believe in Christ do assent, having salvation written in their hearts by the Spirit, without paper or ink, and, carefully preserving the ancient tradition, believing in one God, the Creator of heaven and earth, and all things therein, by means of Christ Jesus, the Son of God; who, because of His surpassing love towards His creation, condescended to be born of the virgin, He Himself uniting man through Himself to God, and having suffered under Pontius Pilate, and rising again, and having been received up in splendour, shall come in glory, the Saviour of those who are saved, and the Judge of those who are judged, and sending into eternal fire those who transform the truth, and despise His Father and His advent. Those who, in the absence of written documents, have believed this faith, are barbarians, so far as regards our language; but as regards doctrine, manner, and tenor of life, they are, because of faith, very wise indeed; and they do please God, ordering their conversation in all righteousness, chastity, and wisdom. If any one were to preach to these men the inventions of the heretics, speaking to them in their own language, they would at once stop their ears, and flee as far off as possible, not enduring even to listen to the blasphemous address. Thus, by means of that ancient tradition of the apostles, they do not suffer their mind to conceive anything of the [doctrines suggested by the] portentous language of these teachers, among whom neither Church nor doctrine has ever been established”.-Against Heresies (Book III, Chapter 4 verse 2)
This shows that Blessed Irenaues believed in Salvation through TRADITION as well
Quite so: “.does the church rest on tradition that is EXTRA biblical or does it rest on the words of scripture confirming the tradition”.
Tradition is the blanket under which to bring in all the myths and legends necessary to support the teachings of Catholicism.
Filtering traditions through the Scriptures and very little comes through.
I think with all of our differences, we do have some common ground...Your post below has validity in my understanding..Because Catholics believe in Tradition, that does not relieve us our responsibility to abide by the inerrancy of the Bible...it is also important because it shows Athanasius talking about the interpretation of Scripture when there is disagreement. Notice his confidence in going to those closest to Christ and the Apostles. I mark those words with asterisks. I applaud your willingness to go back to the Fathers. They were close to Him and should be studied.
“”Here is another quote from
Athanasius ..which seems to support the need for scriptures to verify tradition...
“Vainly then do they run about with the pretext that they have demanded Councils for the faith’s sake; for divine Scripture is sufficient above all things; **but if a Council be needed on the point, there are the proceedings of the Fathers, for the Nicene Bishops did not neglect this matter,*** but stated the doctrines so exactly, that persons reading their words honestly, cannot but be reminded by them of the religion towards Christ announced in divine Scripture” (De Synodis, 6)””