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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; RnMomof7; boatbums; Quix; Iscool; Alex Murphy

“the verse you quote describe the coming of Christ in glory at the end of days but does not negate the completeness of His presence in the Eucharist.”

The verses I quoted speak to His present status: (1 Tim.6:15-16), “who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”

He will not become but already is: (Eph. 1:20-22, “Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,”

John says we don’t know Him completely now: (1 John 3:2), “Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.”

The bread the cup served in communion are “actualized” memorials of a person and an event.


2,105 posted on 06/27/2010 10:36:35 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan
The verses I quoted speak to His present status: (1 Tim.6:15-16), “who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.”

He will not become but already is: (Eph. 1:20-22, “Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,”

AMEN! He has risen and it is all true. His work if FINISHED. Christ has saved His sheep whom God has given Him and He will see them safely home.

What is Christianity, if not that complete assurance?

2,109 posted on 06/27/2010 10:52:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; RnMomof7; boatbums; Quix; Iscool; Alex Murphy
Both statements are true: Christ's future coming (not becoming but coming) is not to be confused with His presence and abiding in Catholic Christians through the Holy Eucharist. Christ's sitting at the right hand of the Father advocating for us today is likewise not to be confused with His Eucharistic presence, which is with us to give us strength in our journey to Him.

it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is

That is a good description of the Eucharistic presence, which indeed does not feed our senses as it is bread and wine that we taste. Compare Luke 24:31-35 (the encounter at Emmaus, the passage I had the pleasure of discussing with you a few years back).

2,121 posted on 06/27/2010 4:31:13 PM PDT by annalex
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