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Paul's conversion: 1st Revelation of Christ to Paul: witnesses there but Revelation to Paul alone.

In Acts 9, the witnesses saw either a light or not, but heard a voice that reportedly spoke three sentences. Nobody saw the Revelation and Paul does not chronicle it. In Acts 22, the witnesses did see a light but did not hear any voice. Nobody saw the Revelation and Paul does not chronicle it.

Revelation 1: 1 1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to show his servants what must happen soon. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, 2 who gives witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ by reporting what he saw. 3 Blessed is the one 2 who reads aloud and blessed are those who listen to this prophetic message and heed what is written in it, for the appointed time is near.

4 3 John, to the seven churches in Asia: 4 grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us 5 from our sins by his blood, 6 who has made us into a kingdom, priests for his God and Father, to him be glory and power forever (and ever). Amen. 7 Behold, he is coming amid the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him. All the peoples of the earth will lament him. Yes. Amen. 8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," 6 says the Lord God, "the one who is and who was and who is to come, the almighty."

9 7 I, John, your brother, who share with you the distress, the kingdom, and the endurance we have in Jesus, found myself on the island called Patmos 8 because I proclaimed God's word and gave testimony to Jesus. 10 I was caught up in spirit on the Lord's day 9 and heard behind me a voice as loud as a trumpet, 11 which said, "Write on a scroll 10 what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea."

12 11 Then I turned to see whose voice it was that spoke to me, and when I turned, I saw seven gold lampstands 13 and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man, 12 wearing an ankle-length robe, with a gold sash around his chest. 14 The hair of his head was as white as white wool or as snow, 13 and his eyes were like a fiery flame. 15 His feet were like polished brass refined in a furnace, 14 and his voice was like the sound of rushing water. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars. 15 A sharp two-edged sword came out of his mouth, and his face shone like the sun at its brightest. 17 When I caught sight of him, I fell down at his feet as though dead. 16 He touched me with his right hand and said, "Do not be afraid. I am the first and the last, 18 the one who lives. Once I was dead, but now I am alive forever and ever. I hold the keys to death and the netherworld. 17 19 Write down, therefore, what you have seen, and what is happening, and what will happen afterwards. 18 20 This is the secret meaning 19 of the seven stars you saw in my right hand, and of the seven gold lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

Now, do you believe John? Do you get that he had a revelation and this is the best that he could do to understand that revelation? Now, did John get everything that he was shown? Probably not. He wrote it down the best that he could. Presumably Paul also did not quite get everything that he saw revealed, and therefore writing through a human mind, perception and language, did the best that he could as well. The problem is that we have the very interesting verse:

1 Corinthians 9: 7 Although I am free in regard to all, I have made myself a slave to all so as to win over as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew to win over Jews; to those under the law I became like one under the law--though I myself am not under the law--to win over those under the law. 21 To those outside the law I became like one outside the law--though I am not outside God's law but within the law of Christ--to win over those outside the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win over the weak. I have become all things to all, to save at least some.

Paul is telling us that he is a salesman, selling Christianity to the world. Does he nuance some of his revelation? He never chronicled it, remember?

Mark, Paul's ENTIRE APOSTLES are the REVELATIONS OF JESUS CHRIST>

Interesting. I thought that Paul had disciples, not Apostles. Timothy, for instance, and Luke, after Luke had travelled with Peter.

The Church the Body of Christ IS a REVELATION.

Umm, no, not a revelation. It is an institution built by Jesus upon Himself as the cornerstone and the rest of the foundation the Apostles, especially Peter.

The human witnesses: "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established", either from God, from Christ, from the Holy Spirit..you know, THE TRINITY. Both in Matthew and 2 Corinthians

If you think that a) you require revelation to be confirmed by at least 2 persons of the Trinity, then your Christianity differs substantially from anybody that I have ever heard of, and b) if you think that the exhortation to confront a sinner with 2 or 3 human witnesses applies to God as well, as well as being proof of Pauline revelation, then, again, your Christianity differs substantially from anybody that I hav ever heard of.

I can't make it any clearer.

You may wish to reexamine your premises.

But go ahead down the *PROVE IT* highway.

The premises being presented are getting increasingly exotic. I'm not sure that proofs could possibly be amassed.