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To: boatbums
Are you enjoying this charade a little too much?

Charade? Christianity is not a charade to we Christians.

Are you really able to accept the proof shown to you or have you already made up your mind one way and refuse to admit you could be wrong? I HAVE read the Scriptures including all the writings from Paul and I see NO contradiction nor ignorance of the true nature of God which includes the concept of the triune nature.

Paul calls Jesus a man on a number of occasions. You have not and neither has anybody else given the Nicene formula of the Trinity from Paul. Romans 15:14-22 does not say that God is equal to Jesus Christ and equal to the Holy Spirit co eternal? Where does it say it? Not your quoted verses. You say that it exists. Where?

In this passage alone, you've got God the Father, Jesus Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit

You have the words but not the definitions. The LDS use the same words, but neither I nor any Christian believes that the definitions are the same. The same thing with a poster on this thread that believes that the Christian feast of Pentecost is the same as the Jewish feast of Shavuot, because he found a translation that called the Shavuot Pentecost. I really look on it as much the same thing.

Are you wanting a "thus sayeth the Lord" kinda quote? Maybe that's not how the Lord worked with Paul. He does use other scripture to prove his teaching quite frequently. You know "it is written", that kind of thing. He speaks quite a lot about how the Holy Spirit is in us so that we may understand what God has freely given us "expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words". (I Cor. 2:12,13).

Maybe? Come on. You guys are a rah rah Paulian crowd. I didn't think that there were any maybes regarding Paul. Are there?

Anyhow, where are the proofs of the Nicene Creed from Paul? Not in Romans...

1,986 posted on 06/25/2010 6:55:27 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Really, Mark, this will be my last post to you on this thread on this subject. I think I can make better use of my time. One last try. The "charade" is the attempt to appear really interested in something on which your mind is already made up.

Paul calls Jesus a man on a number of occasions.

So? Jesus DID have a human nature, did he not? And were there not certain things pertaining to that nature that were purely human? He died, he suffered, he rose again? He had a human body of flesh and blood, he came into the world through a woman's body, he was tempted, he did not ever sin.

Romans 15:14-22 does not say that God is equal to Jesus Christ and equal to the Holy Spirit co eternal? Where does it say it?

Paul, as well as the others believed in ONE God. Not three gods. He called the Father God, he called Jesus God and also the Holy Spirit, God. Paul was a monotheist. Why would he refer to Jesus and the Holy Spirit as God if they were not one with the Father?

You guys are a rah rah Paulian crowd.

Rah rah as in we accept Paul as an Apostle and the writer of God-breathed scripture who God used to reveal major doctrines of the Christian faith? Absolutely! Do we worship Paul? Give me a break! Do I really need to answer that? Name even one church that does that, one.

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God], Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; By whom all things were made [both in heaven and on earth]; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man; he was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried, and the third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father; from thence he shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end. And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets.

I could show you from Paul's epistles that he confirms each and every one of these truths, but what would be the point? If you really wanted to know, you could do the same for yourself. Take care!

2,003 posted on 06/25/2010 8:45:18 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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