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To: MarkBsnr
"But to us there is but one God, the Father. of whom are all things, and we in him;.." (1 Cor. 8:6).

"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom". (Hebrews 1:8).

"But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own and after it was sold was it not in thine own power: why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lide unto men, but unto God". (Acts 5;3,4).

1,937 posted on 06/25/2010 5:14:56 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( DEFENDING the INDEFENSIBLE: The PRIDE of a PAWN.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
"But to us there is but one God, the Father. of whom are all things, and we in him;.." (1 Cor. 8:6).

Very good. Let us first examine 1 Corinthians 1: 1 1 2 Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, 2 to the church of God that is in Corinth, to you who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be holy, with all those everywhere who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours. 3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4 I give thanks to my God always on your account for the grace of God bestowed on you in Christ Jesus,

Here, Jesus is an emissary of God, sent to men.

1 Corinthians 8: 5 Indeed, even though there are so-called gods in heaven and on earth (there are, to be sure, many "gods" and many "lords"), 6 3 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom all things are and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and through whom we exist.

Again, Jesus is lesser than God the Father.

"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom". (Hebrews 1:8).

Did Paul write Hebrews? How do you know? At any rate, let us examine Hebrews.

Hebrews 1: 1 1 In times past, God spoke in partial and various ways to our ancestors through the prophets; 2 in these last days, he spoke to us through a son, whom he made heir of all things and through whom he created the universe, 3 who is the refulgence of his glory, the very imprint of his being, and who sustains all things by his mighty word. When he had accomplished purification from sins, he took his seat at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 as far superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs. 5 2 For to which of the angels did God ever say: "You are my son; this day I have begotten you"? Or again: "I will be a father to him, and he shall be a son to me"? 6 And again, when he leads 3 the first-born into the world, he says: "Let all the angels of God worship him." 7 Of the angels he says: "He makes his angels winds and his ministers a fiery flame";

Here, Jesus is the first born son that has been given all his power by God. Not Trinitarian at all. Let us follow up with:

Hebrews: 7 Of the angels he says: "He makes his angels winds and his ministers a fiery flame"; 8 but of the Son: "Your throne, O God, 4 stands forever and ever; and a righteous scepter is the scepter of your kingdom. 9 You loved justice and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, anointed you with the oil of gladness above your companions";

God the Father is called the God of Jesus, and even more noteworthy; Paul has redirected Psalm 45:7-8, which describes a human king to describing Jesus. Hardly Trinitarian here either.

Acts is not written by Paul, you know. At any rate, lying to the Holy Spirit is equated to lying to God. Not expressly Trinitarian, you know.

I do congratulate you and your brethren. I believe that you might be finding out just how much non Scriptural beliefs you guys really have, and how much your beliefs are actually decreed by the Church and not found expressly in Scripture. I do have hope for you all, as I do for all mankind. I pray that all men will find salvation, yet I do not believe that all men will accept it. And that breaks my heart.

1,946 posted on 06/25/2010 5:46:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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