IIRC, I’ve seen more than a time or 2 hereon, vigorously insistent assertions by the usual rabid clique sorts of folks quite the contrary to your assertion in that post.
I GUESS IT’S YET FURTHER DOCUMENTATION that Roman Catholic dogma etc. is so rubbery and flexible as to fit whatever the poster wants it to fit, at the time.
Impressive DOUBLE STANDARD STUFF yet again.
Alex Murphy, Dr E—am I wrong about such folks saying hereon at least several times how the “Sacraments” of the Roman church confer, transfer, bestow graces upon the participating members?
Whats with obsession with rubber?
This of course is contrary to the word of God which teaches only two sacraments are to be shared among the congregation as instructions by Christ to bring His family closer to Him.
Can men be saved without the sacraments? Of course. But once aware of their place in God's universe, the Christian will want to faithfully partake of the sacraments as emblems of His abiding and benevolent constancy.
The Westminster Confession of Faith articulates the Biblical perspective...
Although it is a great sin to contemn or neglect this ordinance (baptism), [13] yet grace and salvation are not so inseparably annexed unto it, as that no person can be regenerated, or saved, without it:[14] or, that all that are baptized are undoubtedly regenerated.[15]
Grace saves, not the sacraments.
I. Sacraments are holy signs and seals of the covenant of grace,[1] immediately instituted by God,[2] to represent Christ and His benefits; and to confirm our interest in Him:[3] as also, to put a visible difference between those that belong unto the Church and the rest of the world;[4] and solemnly to engage them to the service of God in Christ, according to His Word.[5] II. There is, in every sacrament, a spiritual relation, or sacramental union, between the sign and the thing signified: whence it comes to pass, that the names and effects of the one are attributed to the other.[6] III. The grace which is exhibited in or by the sacraments rightly used, is not conferred by any power in them; neither does the efficacy of a sacrament depend upon the piety or intention of him that does administer it:[7] but upon the work of the Spirit,[8] and the word of institution, which contains, together with a precept authorizing the use thereof, a promise of benefit to worthy receivers.[9] IV. There are only two sacraments ordained by Christ our Lord in the Gospel; that is to say, Baptism, and the Supper of the Lord: neither of which may be dispensed by any, but by a minister of the Word lawfully ordained.[10] V. The sacraments of the Old Testament in regard to the spiritual things thereby signified and exhibited, were, for substance, the same with those of the new.[11]
Of the Sacraments
According to the RCC catechism...
1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.59 He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.60 Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.61 The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.
Did you get that? The RC church supposedly insures men are "reborn of water and the Spirit."
As if. Again, Rome usurps the work and responsibility of the Holy Spirit who alone declares the names of God's family which the church then affirms and strengthens through the fellowship of congregational worship.