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To: RnMomof7
"136 Q. What is a Sacrament?"

Oh, give us a friggen break! You are still flogging the Baltimore Catechism you failed so miserably on nearly a century ago. It was a dumbed down version developed for American school children and was never intended to be a definitive treatise.

When grown-ups discuss Sacramental Grace we use the CCC. "Celebrated worthily in faith, the sacraments confer the grace that they signify. They are efficacious because in them Christ himself is at work: it is he who baptizes, he who acts in his sacraments in order to communicate the grace that each sacrament signifies.

The sacraments act ex opere operato (literally: "by the very fact of the action's being performed"), i.e., by virtue of the saving work of Christ, accomplished once for all. It follows that "the sacrament is not wrought by the righteousness of either the celebrant or the recipient, but by the power of God." From the moment that a sacrament is celebrated in accordance with the intention of the Church, the power of Christ and his Spirit acts in and through it, independently of the personal holiness of the minister. Nevertheless, the fruits of the sacraments also depend on the disposition of the one who receives them. The Church affirms that for believers the sacraments of the New Covenant are necessary for salvation. "Sacramental grace" is the grace of the Holy Spirit, given by Christ and proper to each sacrament. The Spirit heals and transforms those who receive him by conforming them to the Son of God. The fruit of the sacramental life is that the Spirit of adoption makes the faithful partakers in the divine nature by uniting them in a living union with the only Son, the Savior.

1,234 posted on 06/22/2010 7:35:20 PM PDT by Natural Law (Catholiphobia is a mental illness.)
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To: Natural Law
You said this to an earlier post

RN>>>"Does the church not teach that the sacraments give grace?" NL answers .... No.

That answer was wrong , so I corrected it..

I am told the church NEVER changes its doctrine.. so the OLD Baltimore Cat.. is still true right?

Now read what you

the sacraments confer the grace that they signify. They are efficacious because in them Christ himself is at work: it is he who baptizes, he who acts in his sacraments in order to communicate the grace that each sacrament signifies.

Sees to me that says your answer was wrong as well... I like the Baltimore Catechism because all the flowery language is cut out.. you get right to the doctrine..

Did you know the efficacy of the sacrament is determined by the INTENT of the priest? So my friend you may have been baptized or confirmed or confessed sin or received communion.without benefit.. it is all about the priest..

1,376 posted on 06/23/2010 4:07:06 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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