Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
.- Thousands of pilgrims and faithful gathered at noon Sunday in St. Peters Square to pray the Angelus with the Holy Father. Before the prayer, he said that the fruits of the recently ended Year for Priests could never be measured, but are already visible and will continue to be ever more so.
The priest is a gift from the heart of Christ, a gift for the Church and for the world. From the heart of the Son of God, overflowing with love, all the goods of the Church spring forth, proclaimed Pope Benedict XVI. One of those goods is the vocations of those men who, conquered by the Lord Jesus, leave everything behind to dedicate themselves completely to the Christian community, following the example of the Good Shepherd.
The Holy Father described the priest as having been formed by the same charity of Christ, that love which compelled him to give his life for his friends and to forgive his enemies.
Therefore, he continued, priests are the primary builders of the civilization of love.
Benedict XVI exhorted priests to always seek the intercession of St. John Marie Vianney, whose prayer, the Act of Love, was prayed frequently during the Year for Priests, and continues to fuel our dialogue with God.
The pontiff also spoke about the close of the Year for Priests, which took place this past week and culminated with the Solemnity of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He emphasized the unforgettable days in the presence of more than 15,000 priests from around the world.
The feast of the Sacred Heart is traditionally a day of priestly holiness, but this time it was especially so, Benedict XVI remarked.
Pope Benedict concluded his comments by noting that, in contemplating history, one observes so many pages of authentic social and spiritual renewal which have been written by the decisive contribution of Catholic priests. These were inspired only by their passion for the Gospel and for mankind, for his true civil and religious freedom.
So many initiatives that promote the entire human being have begun with the intuition of a priestly heart, he exclaimed.
The Pope then prayed the Angelus, greeted those present in various languages, and imparted his apostolic blessing.
You use Greek instead of the English and Hebrew. Which Bible did you use to come up with this. I do not recal you using Greek anywhere else. A stretch, for sure.
Are you hearing yourself?? Please get a King James Bible. Do you have one? Please look at Acts 2:1. What does it say?
Answer me that.
Acts 2: is not the same as Leviticus 23:. The first Pentecost occurred at that time; just as the Last Supper was built upon Passover, so Pentecost was built upon the Shavuot.
Dear sir it IS day of Pentecost in my King James Bible. Which is the bible I use for all my posts.
Lev 23:15 ¶ And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
It does not say Pentecost anywhere in Leviticus in the Blue Letter KJV Bible.
It seems that some actually want to deliberately pit Paul against James; want to force a contradiction (that never has existed) between the Apostles to the Circumcision and the Apostles of the Uncircumcision. This distinction is one they could not explain to begin with, yet they feign themselves Teachers of the Scriptures, wanting us to believe that James somehow trumps Paul.
I am at the end of my patience. Being ignorant is one thing. But when it’s clearly pointed out, willful ignorance does not have to be tolerated. Mark, count-your-change and I have attempted, in good faith, to explain the day of Pentecost. Good faith becomes foolish when it is so obviously wasted on desired spiritual blindness. Look it up for yourself. Read the scriptures the way you want them to read. I have nothing to add to your blindness and willful rejecting of truth. It’s on you.
Matthew 7:3, my friend.
It was highly relevant. You don't have to be brilliant to perceive that, just not stupid.
Hmm. I'll select some of the OT; all of the NT; reject the NT Apocrypha, elevate Paul to the role of Saviour and retire Jesus except for His Name, subordinate the Holy Spirit, and that's just for today. Another busy day of creating a new religion tomorrow...
WELL PUT.
The craziest thing to me is the presumption that the voices in their heads telling them how to personally interpret Scripture is the Holy Spirit.
“Start a thread on Sola scripture if you like..”
That’s not required because that concept is DOA lol, it’s not in the Bible.
Now, if you agree to stop refutations with “it’s not in the Bible”...I’m sure your Catholic debate buddies will agree to not bring up “sola scriptura” since it’s not a Biblical concept.
Perverse idolatry, blasphemy of institutions, personages, heresies
etc.
tends to go arm in arm with such stubbornness and willful blindness.
Goes with the territory.
Thankfully, SOME of the lurkers have hearts truly seeking God and God’s truths.
Your efforts are not in vain for them.
In other words, all the attributes of a pope!
As your posts make clear even if you cannot see it, it that it's either accept what the Scriptures say or accept Catholic dogma.
As you pointed out Catholic dogma is not found in Scripture but in the councils pronouncements, whatever.
“Since you are a self avowed follower of the Reformation, I would be interested to see which Biblically based beliefs that you follow which are in conflict with Christianity.”
It is that assumption that Biblically based beliefs can somehow conflict with Christianity that exposes the gulf between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity.
“I love the framing of the question. It could be framed much more truthfully if one worded this way: Which should I choose? The Church created by Jesus Christ and commissioned by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, or a church founded by tent con artist preachers with big hair and a flair for Sunday morning pass-the-hat sessions on television? Men of God, or slick bunco artist used car salesmen?”
You left out the church that has paid out a couple of billion dollars for it's long standing moral rot.
True. The Church selected by Jesus Christ to interpret and teach the Faith is considered to be irrelevant by every thorazine-deprived self-made Pope who would create his own religion. They accept the NT Scripture, except the ones who don't. They accept the OT Scripture, except the ones who don't. They accept the Trinity, except the ones who don't. And so on. Each successive man made religion is an imitation, albeit, rapidly fading one of the Faith. And as time goes on, the religions become more and more bizarre. It took the novelties of Calvin and Luther to lead to the novelties of the Campbells and Smith to lead to the novelties of Parham and Macpherson to lead to the novelties of Jones and Koresh to lead to the novelties of...
In other words, all the attributes of a pope!
Take a virtual tour of the Papal apartments sometime and a peek at his schedule. The Pope has no armies (as Stalin said). He leads a rather austere life and very demanding. He does not make the rules and is not a despot. Funny, but untrue.
As your posts make clear even if you cannot see it, it that it's either accept what the Scriptures say or accept Catholic dogma.
In fact, I say the opposite. I say that without the guidance of the Church and the Holy Spirit, you will inevitably come to the wrong beliefs. I showed everyone here the Scriptural proofs for subordinationism. Want to refute it using Scripture alone? You cannot because it will come down to dueling Scriptural verses.
As you pointed out Catholic dogma is not found in Scripture but in the councils pronouncements, whatever.
Prove it. Where did I ever say that?
It is that assumption that Biblically based beliefs can somehow conflict with Christianity that exposes the gulf between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity.
Prove that subordinationism is untrue. I believe that it is based upon Nicene and the Church. Where do you get your proof?
You left out the church that has paid out a couple of billion dollars for it's long standing moral rot.
Again avoiding the questions. You guys really don't have very many answers when the light shines on your novelties. The Church is made up of sinners and the USCCB has more than its share. Agreed. Now how about answering some of the questions posed to you? What about the Septuagint and the Deuterocanonicals? What about the selection of Scripture? What about the doctrine of the Trinity? I don't believe that you've gotten into them at all.
WELLLLLLL, when they start with . . .
--MANGLED HISTORY,
--MANGLED SCRIPTURE,
--MANGLED DICTIONARIES,
--MANGLED pseudo-logic,
ADD idolatry, blasphemy, stubbornness and willful blindness . . .
Goofy-ness is likely to be putting it mildly.
Perhaps you don’t have any answers, or maybe they are extremely shallow???
= = =
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER! THE TRUTH!
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