Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
.- Thousands of pilgrims and faithful gathered at noon Sunday in St. Peter’s Square to pray the Angelus with the Holy Father. Before the prayer, he said that the fruits of the recently ended Year for Priests could never be measured, but are already visible and will continue to be ever more so.
“The priest is a gift from the heart of Christ, a gift for the Church and for the world. From the heart of the Son of God, overflowing with love, all the goods of the Church spring forth,” proclaimed Pope Benedict XVI. “One of those goods is the vocations of those men who, conquered by the Lord Jesus, leave everything behind to dedicate themselves completely to the Christian community, following the example of the Good Shepherd.”
The Holy Father described the priest as having been formed by “the same charity of Christ, that love which compelled him to give his life for his friends and to forgive his enemies.”
“Therefore,” he continued, “priests are the primary builders of the civilization of love.”
Benedict XVI exhorted priests to always seek the intercession of St. John Marie Vianney, whose prayer, the “Act of Love,” was prayed frequently during the Year for Priests, and “continues to fuel our dialogue with God.”
The pontiff also spoke about the close of the Year for Priests, which took place this past week and culminated with the Solemnity of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He emphasized “the unforgettable days in the presence of more than 15,000 priests from around the world.”
The feast of the Sacred Heart is traditionally a “day of priestly holiness,” but this time it was especially so, Benedict XVI remarked.
Pope Benedict concluded his comments by noting that, in contemplating history, “one observes so many pages of authentic social and spiritual renewal which have been written by the decisive contribution of Catholic priests.” These were inspired “only by their passion for the Gospel and for mankind, for his true civil and religious freedom.”
“So many initiatives that promote the entire human being have begun with the intuition of a priestly heart,” he exclaimed.
The Pope then prayed the Angelus, greeted those present in various languages, and imparted his apostolic blessing.
“If Christ is within us at all times, He cannot then be received additionally during the Lord’s Supper.”
He certainly can. Jesus Christ is not limited by the heretical constraints of Jean Calvin.
This is a prophetic psalm..it points to Christ..the son of David.. This is a resurrection prophecy .The jews yet to this day are blinded..it does not matter what they see as a historic reading..they,like all the unsaved were and are unable to see prophesy or types in the OT..
If one has the indwelling Christ of what additional benefit is a 5 min digestion of a piece of bread to anyone? Either one has Christ or does not .
Does a piece of bread make one more holy? Know Christ better?
If the indwelling Spirit of God is not sufficient to live a holy life, to grow in the knowledge of Christ , to be led to do His will how is a 5min encounter going to change anything?
I think with all of our differences, we do have some common ground...Your post below has validity in my understanding..Because Catholics believe in Tradition, that does not relieve us our responsibility to abide by the inerrancy of the Bible...it is also important because it shows Athanasius talking about the interpretation of Scripture when there is disagreement. Notice his confidence in going to those closest to Christ and the Apostles. I mark those words with asterisks. I applaud your willingness to go back to the Fathers. They were close to Him and should be studied.
“”Here is another quote from
Athanasius ..which seems to support the need for scriptures to verify tradition...
“Vainly then do they run about with the pretext that they have demanded Councils for the faith’s sake; for divine Scripture is sufficient above all things; **but if a Council be needed on the point, there are the proceedings of the Fathers, for the Nicene Bishops did not neglect this matter,*** but stated the doctrines so exactly, that persons reading their words honestly, cannot but be reminded by them of the religion towards Christ announced in divine Scripture” (De Synodis, 6)””
Sure, but we were talking about the dual nature of Jesus. Sin is by some definitions, rebellion against God. It is also failure to follow God's laws. Without God's Grace, we will all fail. Now, the Catechism speaks to sin being the love of something else being greater than the love for God.
Obedience is not conditional. You don’t say I will obey God if he saves me.
Of course not. God will Judge us based upon our obedience and our imitation of Christ.
Christianity is “thy will be done.”
Correct. But you threw the OT into the mix several posts ago, so I was attempting to get the definitions around the OT and the NT both.
“But rejecting the traditions that violate both the word and spirit of the Scriptures doesn’t throw me into a “sola Scripture” camp either.”
Your honesty and open-mindedness is appreciated.
As a former Protestant I can tell you that I hate a lot of fear regarding Catholic beliefs. Once I did my own research and verified audacious claims with the Catholic Catechism, I saw my fears were unfounded.
Many so called “Catholic beliefs” were lies and myths born out of ignorance.
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved”. (Romans 10:9)....
If you believe, you ARE SAVED. not going to be. ARE. “
Being “born again” in my late teens, I know the Mercy of Christ and in my vanity believe I am Saved. I know that in my heart and soul. But at the same time, I know I am but a lowly sinner and I cannot self judge myself.
I think I am trying to be the best Christian I can, but like all of us, I fail at times...but I persist. I will throw myself at the Divine Mercy of Jesus Christ and hope I am worthy of his Passion.
“And there I will raise my hand in objection. Properly made marmalade is a wonderful concoction, full of wholesome goodness, including the rinds of grapefruits, the pith of oranges, and the waste bits of lemons, all boiled to death in a sugar syrup.”
Sorry, I should have qualified that I am diabetic. I also abhor a fine birthday cake.
It's not vanity that you can KNOW you're saved. "But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love wherewith He loved us, even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved:) and hath raised us up together and MADE US SIT TOGETHER IN HEAVENLY PLACES in Christ Jesus". (Ephesians 2:4-6).
Before He promised us this heavenly position, He placed a seal on us assuring us of life forever with Him.
"That we should be to the praise of His glory who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED YE WERE SEALED with that Holy Spirit of promise". (Ephesians 1:12,13).
"Having forgiven you ALL trespasses".(Colossians 2:13).
If you are saved, you are already seated in heavenly places IN CHRIST. Not only that, the moment you believed, you were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise. This is like the candle wax melting onto the King's message and his signet ring making its mark. No one could unseal the message except the person to whom it was sent. If another tried, the seal would be broken, and there would be no guarantee that the king's words were his and not another's. This is so important to understand. You are sealed unto the Day of Redemption. The seal cannot be broken until it is delivered unto the recipient, Jesus Christ.
It is NOT vanity to be assured of salvation. You cannot be an effective workman for God if you are constantly worrying about your own salvation.
Ah, sad, that. I make a chocolate cake that takes over 2 pounds of chocolate and cocoa in the cake and in the frosting, as well as brown sugar. It is so rich that one will normally eat only a small piece liberally covered with ice cream.
Well, may I compliment you on the way that you are handling your diabetes. May I ask what sort of victuals you are permitted given your specific condition?
Nope. The “Lord” cannot be turned into a generic “master”. If it were simply a matter of style then the verse could be read as “LORD the lord”.
Understandably part of the confusion is the result of substituting “LORD” for YHWH or Jehovah as is done at Ps. 8:1,9 where YHWH and adown are both used.
“Adoun by itself can be any master, and when used alone it never means God. If God is referred to as the master it is always qualified.”
I just gave you the example of Jos. 3:11 where adown is used to refer to God. The context is unambiguous therefore it is “Lord” not “lord” and not just “master” either.
“Who was David's master? David himself was anointed. It was David who was hoping to and laid down the foundations for the Temple but never actually saw it finished. Yet he is the founder of the Temple and the Temple bore his name.”
At Matt. 22:42 Jesus asks the Pharisees who they think the Christ is, whose son is he? and they answer, “David's”, though David was anointed as king.
David by inspiration calls the Christ his “Lord” not just a generic owner, but a title of respect for a superior.
The Pharisees had said the Christ was David's son already so Jesus asks how The Christ could be both Lord of David and his son, one and the same. (Matt.22:41-44)
David wasn't talking about himself in Ps. 110.
At 1 Kings 1:48 David said Solomon would sit on “the throne of David” and any of David's lineage if king would sit on David's throne.
But since David was not talking about himself Ps. 110 is talking about the Christ (Lord)sitting at the right hand of YHWH, Jehovah, (LORD).
“Who sat on the throne of David if not David? And who started the Second Temple if not David? And was he not anointed by God? And what are Psalms if not liturgical chants intended to be chanted by Levite priests in David's Temple?”
Christ sat on David's throne as Peter said at Acts 2:30, David being a prophet and the Psalms being prophetic of the Christ.
The second temple was started by those who returned from exile, David made preparations for the first.
Not surprisingly the Jews didn't really care for such an idea as the Christ being both Lord and son of David but so what?
“Besides, Jesus never mentions verse 4.”
But David did. It show he wasn't talking about himself but prophetically about the Christ who would be both high priest and king.
What Catholics understand I’ll leave to them but obviously whether a tradition is acceptable depends on whether it violates God’s word or not.
I don’t have fears regarding Catholic beliefs, I just can’t accept what I find Scripture does not support.
Grace fulfills the Law.
"having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances..."(Ephisians 2:15).
LOL, if you say so...by fiat. And what do you have to offer as proof of this nonsense?
I would say the Orthodox view would be to say "depends what's in your heart." Outward imitation of Christ can be phony, Pharisaical, hypocritical.
But you threw the OT into the mix several posts ago, so I was attempting to get the definitions around the OT and the NT both.
I don't recall the exact post, Mark. Obedience to God was the only requirement in both Testaments. You can't serve two masters. Only one master. And severing a master means your will is only to serve. Christ, in his humanity, was a perfect servant.
severing = serving
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